Edward Cullen vs Legoshi (Twilight vs Beastars): Round 1 Fight Blogs

 

“There is no remedy for love but to love more.” - Henry David Thoreau

Edward Cullen, Twilight's immortal vampire and love of Isabella Swan

Legoshi, Beastars’ conflicted wolf in love with dwarf rabbit Haru 

Love is complicated, that’s for sure. Even the everyday relationships between friends and family are a challenge, but especially more so for your average teenage boy in love with a pretty girl. In the case of these two stand-offish young predators, it can get so complicated that they literally become like an animal in the sights of their “prey;” with their unstoppable feelings being the only buffer between life and death for the girl of their dreams. Even despite that hurdle, nothing can or will stop them from transcending the boundaries between predator and prey in order to be with the one they love, and it will forever remain that way as long as they are together. Will that bond enable these lovestruck beasts to survive this eerie Halloween twilight ? Let’s find out!

Round 1: FIGHT!!!

Before We Start…

Both Edward and Legoshi will be getting their main canon and related media. That means the Twilight books/movies and the Beastars anime/manga, but also spin-offs set in the same world, like The Short Second Life Of Bree Tanner and Beast Complex. In Twilight’s case, this also extends to guides of the franchise, both movie and book, and brings up the topic of Life And Death. This anniversary edition genderswaps the cast in a reimagining of it, which can potentially be argued as applicable due to simply being a What-If? scenario. This will be elaborated upon later, along with the other factors to it. 

As a given, this will include major spoilers for the endings of both series’, should you wish to experience them and the characters used better than I can show. From the spirit of the match, I will try my best to infuse this blog with their character and the best aspects of both worlds, so strap in for one wild ride. Lastly, this blog will discuss some mature facets about the characters and stories very blatantly, just as a warning in case you don't care for that sort of thing. Also, unfortunately neither series has very good easily accessible renders, so the art here isn't as good as I'd like it to be. Finally, massive thank you to Raptor, Normal, and Kaiser for helping calculate various feats or review/revise them as well, plus Valve for Edward and Legoshi's title cards. 

Sources Used:

• Respect Edward Cullen (Twilight)!

• Respect Legosi (Beastars)

Enough of that though, let’s get into it!

Background

Edward

• Full Name: Edward Anthony Masen Cullen

• Height: 6’2” / 1.83 m

• Weight: Unknown

• Species: Vampire (“Cold Ones”)

• Married to Isabella Cullen and father to Renesmee Cullen

• Operated as a vigilante that killed murderers and rapists for a few years to consume their blood

• Has pretty select music tastes, and a hobby of working on cars

• Won Best Fiction for Young Adults in 2006 from the Young Adult Library Services Association

• Shaped an unnatural level of perception about vampires in the 2000s

“What if I’m not a superhero? What if I’m the bad guy?”

What is life, if not cruel? Take the life of a monster among men, for example. That monster may hate himself for his condition that separates him from mortals, but he can do nothing to change it. All he can do is succumb, accept himself, and make the best of his situation. This was exactly the case with a young man named Carlisle in the 15th century, and his transformation into a Vampire. Son of a famous pastor hell-bent on burning away vampires, he had believed his father’s task to be mere myth, until he took up his mantle and met one such creature. Failing to kill it and barely escaping with his life, Carlisle was shocked to find that his blood had been tainted by that of this cold nature, and so too had his very soul as he was transformed into that eerie creature of the night. Once he realized this, Carlisle tried to end his existence rather than become the monster his father had feared, but found such a task was impossible. After months of forced starvation instead of drinking human blood, he found an alternative of food in wild life. Carlisle studied several medical fields across the world over the decades, becoming a doctor to save human lives as a sort of penance for what he has now become. Still, he was lonely from so long alone, and long wished for a companion. You’d think this would sound like the story of how he found the love of his life, but the kindness of Carlisle is what brought forth the true hero of the story; a lovelorn immortal monster of a man who fell in love with a mortal woman. Her name was Isabella Swan (known to her friends and family as Bella) and his was Edward Cullen. 

Edward was originally born in Chicago in 1901, living your average teenage life of sorrow at the time. As his foul luck would have it, both his parents died from Spanish Influenza, and Edward was suffering the same disease when Carlisle found him in 1918. With no family to call his own and no option for survival, Edward would soon be accepted as just another casualty, and thus would seldom be missed. Carlisle had long wished for a companion, be they friend, lover, brother, or any other who could share in his unending existence. After the boy's mother begged this vampiric doctor to save her son, his mind was made up, and he turned Edward into a Vampire to save his life. His decision dealt Edward great physical pain, but he lived nonetheless, and was thus the first addition to the Cullen family. Carlisle, bit by bit, brought more new Vampires to the family, like an old patient who fell in love with her doctor named Esme, a noblewoman left broken by her fiance named Rosalie, and a young girl he saved from another vampire named Alice. Carlisle found love after all in Esme, and Rosalie soon found another that was turned into a Vampire to save his life who she would grow to love named Emmet. Alice would even foresee a broken Vampire named Jasper who she would grow to love, but what of Edward? Carlisle had secretly hoped that Rosalie would feel for him as Esme and himself had felt for each other, but neither she nor any other Vampire woman Edward met were right for him. Spending forever alone horrified Edward, but he seemed to accept it for nearly 90 years… until he met her. 

Isabella Swan was not like most girls. Her parents had divorced, and both of their lacking in certain paternal or maternal areas led to her growing into a more motherly child forced to grow up faster than most. She viewed herself as inferior to other girls in beauty, and had never received much attention herself. That didn’t really bother her, since her clumsiness and traits like phobia of blood often served to embarrass her. In any case, she mostly just moved throughout her days with a hollow purpose, save for things she did not want to do. One such thing included making her mother Renée unhappy, so when she went with her boyfriend on his sports tour, Bella chose to stay with her father Charlie in Forks, California. This gloomy rainy town was a stark contrast to Phoenix, Arizona, but she adapted nonetheless. Still, things had changed, like how her presence as the new girl, as well as her previously unappreciated beauty and kindness, led to new friends and new admirers. Still, Bella had never quite felt that way toward others, and had resigned herself to thinking she simply didn’t have time for anybody else if they didn’t have time for her. However, one gloomy day at lunch, she met the seemingly eccentric Cullen family, and met the only one of their family who was alone like her, who you know as Edward Cullen. 

Edward and his family had moved to Forks due to the damp atmosphere helping disguise their true nature, with the surrounding forest providing plenty of ways to cut loose without fear of being seen. Their paler skin at times and ethereal nature were less obvious here than in a wider area, and it was the perfect place to stay for them due to nobody caring save a certain beastly bloodline. Nobody had put two and two together to see their nature, so Edward put little thought into life there. However, Bella was something different than what he had experienced in the time of his life. Certain humans bore blood particularly enticing to a Vampire, so much so that it was both too tasty and agonizing to resist. Even the strongest Vampires had trouble resisting this urge, and it was just Edward’s luck that such a person would sit next to him in science class. With barely enough strength to avoid killing her and everyone else in the room, Edward stormed out, giving Bella the assumption that he disliked her. Far be it from the case, because Bella fascinated him. She underestimated herself so much that she refused to understand why others fell for her, but was imperfect at the same time in her clumsiness and bouts of pouty fury rather than outright anger. She was simply different from the cold and bleak reality he had come to know, and trying as he might for fear of her own safety, he found himself unable to stay away from her. 

As their barbed conversations and interactions with each other continued, battling with their curious feelings of like and dislike of each other, it all came to a head when a classmate of Bella’s swerved into the parking lot over the ice at high speeds. Bella was unable to get out of the way in time, and would surely have been crushed… if Edward hadn’t stepped in to save her by literally lifting the van over his head while running over at speeds no eye could track. Everybody bought the miracle that Bella was almost hit but managed to move at the last moment, yet she knew and had seen the truth. Unable to explain it, with Edward brushing off this act due to not wanting to involve her further, Bella spoke to the Quilette family and one of their younger boys named Jacob, who she had been friends with as children. He implied a history of vampires in Forks, and Bella began to piece together Edward’s true nature with bits and rumors about the internet. Still, things really changed when Bella met some friends in another town, but was nearly cornered by some men who had less than honest intentions. Sure enough, Edward had followed her there out of fear for her safety, and saved her life yet again, but this time he did not push her or her questions away. 

Deciding to ease his worries, Edward spoke to her about his past and their present, reaffirming her theory that he was in fact a Vampire. After laughing at the tales of Vampire weaknesses and habits, Edward became closer to Bella, as she did him. This resulted in him taking her to a clearing in which his body sparkled like a marvelous gemstone, and in which he voiced his concerns about what they had become. He was a lion falling in love with a lamb, and just the smallest lapse in control could determine whether he would kiss her or bite her face off. She was only human after all, and how could she outrun him or fight him off if he ever lost his nerve? To both his and her surprise however, he decided to not live his life denying his true nature and true desires any longer, which Bella mirrored. Outcasts viewed as better by some and lesser by others, finding each other in the crossfire and deciding to stick with each other, for better or worse. 

As their relationship progressed, much changed and adapted, like when they met each other’s family, where Alice took a profound liking to her virtual sister in law (precognition, ain’t it too nutty?). When a Tracker Vampire came to Forks and smelled Bella’s intoxicating blood, it enacted a nationwide chase for her life where Bella nearly died, but Edward and the Cullens managed to save her life nonetheless. Even still, after her birthday where Jasper nearly killed Bella after smelling her blood, the Cullens made a rather heartbreaking decision to leave Forks. Edward thus left Bella, hoping to force her into accepting the divide between mortal and immortal. He would be as he was forever, and that meant they could not grow old together, nor have children without fear of the “act” grievously injuring Bella. The last thing he wanted was to give her the life of an immortal, because then she could never grow old or have children herself, while everyone she knew and loved would die around her. So, he left, and attempted to convince himself this was the best thing for both of them. It was not.

Bella herself went through several months of anger and sadness that her love had left her, and had still barely just began to move on with her friends and with a spark of interest in Jacob. Edward arguably went through worse, with excruciating mental and physical pain as everything he had begged him to return to her, but he willed himself not to for want of saving her life from the curse that was him. However, that came to a head when Bella decided to jump off a cliff for fun, as she had seen the Quielletes do so (average 2000's teenage mindset). Edward heard such in the wrong context, and believed that his actions had caused the love of his unlife to kill herself. Shattered into pieces, Edward ventured to Italy, where the mightiest Vampire family, the Volturi, were staying. They tasked themselves with keeping Vampires a secret from humanity, and Edward intended to expose himself so that they would kill him: suicide for the price of nothing. Against all odds, and with help from his family, Bella went to stop Edward herself and show him that she still lived, and that managed to snap him out of his funk. The Volturi were able to be persuaded to let him go despite his stunt, even when they became aware of Bella’s peculiar nature. 

When things returned to normal and the Cullens came back to Forks, Edward decided to take Bella up on her desire to become a Vampire so she could forever be with her love. In return, e requested they be married, as that had always been a dream of his, and he wished to at least give her that happy memory before she became frozen in time like him. Ultimately she obliged, but she herself wished that they consummate their marriage before she became a Vampire, due to herself also wanting that memory, much to his chagrin. Despite his previous predicament of wielding the power to break her body with any wrong move, the deed was completed on their honeymoon. Much to the both of their surprises, Bella became pregnant, which was known as an impossibility for Vampires. Due to Bella being still human (Vampire Women changed in biology to a degree that disabled their traditional bodies monthly functions), and Edward’s Venom acting as a substitute for… you know, they had managed to form a child. Despite Edward’s fear that such a thing would kill her, as did some of the Cullens, the majority including Bella wanted her to have the child. Even Jacob would help stop his family, who had long warred with the Cullens, in order to fulfill Bella’s wish. While such a thing did wind up nearly killing her, Edward just barely saved her by turning her into a Vampire, and from that point, everything changed.

Edward had never thought he would wind up with a wife, let alone a child born of his own blood. Rennesme (named after Edward and Bella’s mothers) was an anomaly; still human, but part Vampire nonetheless. She would age and grow older like a human, but sped up to the point of maturing to physical and emotional adulthood within only a few years, from which point she would age like her Vampire parents. Edward grew to adore her, as did Bella, and they stepped into a somewhat normal life as she grew alongside them. Well, there was the somewhat odd time where she imprinted on Jacob (basically the concept of soulmates for his family), which Bella became royally pissed at, and Edward slightly mirrored but mostly found the situation humorous. Despite that, and the other traditional traits of parenthood, this new child was found out by the Volturi, who deemed her a potential liability based on past children of her kind, nearly exposing Vampires as a whole. So, they came to Forks aiming to destroy her, but did not expect every ally of the Cullens that they had acquired over the centuries all coming to their aid. Once the trouble had ended, life returned to this abnormal kind of normal that Edward and Bella had known. With a loving wife and daughter, a supportive family, and even a new best friend in Jacob, everything that he had ever wanted was now his. He no longer had to suffer alone, because now he would never be alone. No matter what, and no matter who sought to separate them, he would always be with Bella. Together, now and always… forever. 

Legoshi

• Full Name: Legoshi

• Height: 6'2" / 1.83 m

• Weight: 170 lbs / 77 kg

• Species: Gray Wolf (“Carnivore Canidae”)

• Dating Haru, a white Dwarf Rabbit

• Canonically, his type is herbivores

• His name is borrowed from Bela Lugosi, the iconic actor of Dracula in many old movies

• Won Best Shōnen Manga in the Kodansha Manga Awards of 2018

• His Mangaka, Paru Itagaki, is the daughter of Baki mangaka Keisuke Itagaki

“It wouldn’t really change anyone’s opinion anyways. I’ll be just fine. Feared and hated… that’s the story of my life.”

Predator and Prey. This relationship symbolizes much of the animal kingdom in our world, and this is no different in a rather curious world we find ourselves in. Imagine if animals evolved to gain true sentience and feeling for other creatures, from the ancient Dinosaurs and fathers of all life. This resulted in Life-Eating Beasts and Plant-Eating Beasts, where the former would eat meat and the latter would eat plants. However, upon these factions meeting each other, instead of predator devouring prey, one large animal saved a smaller one from a boulder. Such an act is odd, as their appetites and nature would make you think they would just eat them, but the Life-Eating Beasts instead sought companionship. For that reason, their species joined forces in arms, and rapidly progressed society as a result. Even despite massive wars and disagreements, these Beasts did not really wish to fight and kill each other, but to hold hands as friends in this world. In the present, they became known as carnivores and herbivores, and their issues but kindness remained. Carnivores often succumbed to their urges for meat instead of other things like beans and milk, which lead to a constant fear on both sides. Herbivores feared being eaten by a stronger foe, and Carnivores feared falling into that trap to lose sanity. With that established, what would you think about a couple of different species? A Carnivore and Herbivore in love? Well, most were perplexed, but none more so than one such creature accidentally in love with one he nearly killed the first time they met. That herbivore was named Haru, and he was named Legoshi.

This story actually started years ago, with Legoshi’s grandfather Gosha and his best bud Yahya; a komodo dragon and a horse. The legendary Beastar was one who protected society as a sort of ambassador to both species to prevent conflict, and these two friendly rivals wanted to instead become Beastars. Although, “Rivals” may not be putting it best, since these two were genuinely friends who did not wish to compete whatsoever; only to aid each other and make their dreams come true. In one such adventure as teenagers where they would rough up bullies or the like, Gosha saved a wolf named Toki, and the two fell in love. Such a thing was alien to Gosha, who himself was often looked at as a monster even more than other beasts due to his venom that could kill other beasts instantly. Nobody had ever told him he looked like anything less, except Toki, who went so far as to tell him that his scales looked beautiful. Such an interaction warped Gosha, and the two progressed in their relationship to the point of Toki becoming pregnant. This meant he quit trying to become Beastars alongside Yahya, sacrificing a potential future of glory for the one thing he truly wanted; a family. Even still, it wasn’t easy, even when the pair had a daughter named Leanno. Toki willingly tasted Gosha’s venom (which he normally protected her from) all so that she could truly kiss him, and died as a result. Leanno, on the other hand, grew up a beautiful and popular wolf, but as she matured scales from Gosha’s parentage showed up and made her view herself as an imperfection. 

To rectify this, she hooked up with an upcoming actor and aimed to become a mother while she was younger, which is where Legoshi comes in. Growing up with a reptile grandfather was already rather out of the ordinary, but Leanno hid herself away for most of his childhood so that nobody would call her a monster. Eventually, after a night where she hugged her son while she slept, Leanno took her own life out of pain. This scarred both grandfather and grandson for years, which resulted in Gosha sending Legoshi to Cherryton Academy; a boarding school where carnivores and herbivores lived together in peace. Removing himself from much of his grandson’s life made Gosha hopeful that he would grow up to become someone untouched by the shackles of his previous years, and for a while this was the case. Legoshi bonded with childhood friend Jack and other carnivores in their dorms, and grew up like normal… about as normal as he could be anyway. His reptilian ancestry gave Legoshi higher strength and build than most gray wolves, but also a reserved nature due to his discomfort at his own nature. Deep down, he cried at how others looked at him like a freak of nature for his strength, but knew such reactions were not unwarranted, due to how easily he could kill herbivores. Growing up with a mother who committed suicide furthered this social anxiety, and made him a quiet boy who had few friends. Heck, even at 17, he never had a girlfriend, while all his friends had much better luck in that department. Until, that is, one odd year. 

Legoshi’s alpaca friend Tem was recently murdered and consumed by a mystery carnivore on campus, and all he could do to honor his friend was hand his crush a love-letter that the herbivore was too scared to give her. Even still, he rejected her wanting to tell others about it, because he had always been used to being seen as a monster that hid in the shadows. He didn’t do this to make others fear him, but because he in turn feared them, and the very idea of extending himself to the point that he was vulnerable. While aiding Beastar-candidate Louis for the drama club one night, Legoshi instead became his most vulnerable when he smelled a herbivore in the darkness. Nobody was around but them, and soon she became aware of his presence. This creature was a dwarf rabbit named Haru, and he leaped onto her to hold her in his arms while he wrestled with his instincts. Nobody would know, nobody would see, and nobody could stop him from embracing the beast within that others believed he was. By all means, according to his instincts manifested as a shadow essence, he was allowed this. Surprisingly, Haru would have agreed, and was herself just as kindred of a spirit as Legoshi. 

Haru, growing up a dwarf rabbit, was constantly aware of the fact that she could die at any time. Her species was small and delicate, and her parents repeatedly told her of that fact simply out of caution. It wasn’t cruel in nature, it was merely how things were, but that idea in of itself was heartbreaking to Haru. Beasts everywhere treated her as a fragile object, and she couldn’t stand the idea of being lesser forever. So, she became surprised as she grew older at the concept of romantic intimacy between people. During that stage, feelings and one’s nature were laid bare, and neither were above each other. That became her outlet, where she would instead cling to that feeling where nobody would view her as lesser… and where she wouldn’t agree with them. After years of this, Haru became a jaded individual who treated sex like a drug, always looking for the next high, that next “something else” to get her through this semi-charmed life. She entered relationships with numerous herbivores, including Louis, who she gained legitimate feelings for, but that only made it all the more heart-breaking when he told her they could never be together due to his standing as an heir to his father’s company (meaning he must mate with a deer). Her one hope for love would eventually leave her, and she had no real friends due to her reputation as a harlot. Like before, Haru was just a faceless and nameless dwarf rabbit who had no meaning, and one who nobody would miss when she was gone. She had grown to the point of not caring whether she lived or died, and would even show suicidal tendencies throughout the story in certain forms, all because she had nobody to comfort her, nobody who would comfort her, and nobody to disrupt the lie that her life had no meaning… until Legoshi. 

Against most odds, Haru escaped with only a wound on her arm, and the pair went about their days normally. Fate is an odd thing though, and it brought them back together when the drama club needed flowers from the gardening club; resulting in Legoshi meeting her again. She appeared not to remember that night, but he did, and was absurdly nervous meeting her. She was actually kind to him and did not appear to fear him, unlike most, which fascinated him. She interpreted his shy nature and attitude as him simply wanting to hook up, which brought back that jaded attitude as she came onto him. He was shocked, to say the least, and rebuffed her advances while covering her with a blanket and running off while injuring his tail. In all her years, Haru never experienced that reaction, and this made her smile at the oddness of it all. As time went by, her and Legoshi became genuine friends, and Legoshi’s fascination turned into that classic high school crush for the one girl he was always searching for. Still, his instincts warred within, and he had to constantly battle between his inner demons to ask if he genuinely loved her, or if he was trying to normalize a desire to eat her. Going with other carnivores to the Black Market, a place where carnivores illegally bought and ate meat, furthered this, and his desire to grow up into someone who wouldn’t commit such a sin. Meeting the market’s doctor vigilante Gohin didn’t make him feel better, and his own feelings on Legoshi’s supposed feelings furthered that. Despite that, Legoshi’s feelings for Haru, the joy he felt when they held hands, and the jealousy he felt watching her with Louis made him realize his feelings were real: he was in love with Haru.

Progressing, Legoshi constantly had to protect both himself and Haru from the world around them. He fought an entire lion mob alongside Gohin to protect her from being devoured, had an awkward night with her at a hotel while injured, and worked through their growing relationship until he could tell her of his feelings. This idea puzzled Jack and saddened a fellow gray wolf named Juno, but it was what Legoshi wanted, and who he was. He had been fascinated with herbivores for so long that he never realized this fascination was a want to protect them, a love for their differences from him, and a kindness to them he wished others showed to him. Even on Haru’s side she found it strange, as she had always believed and been told she was just one faceless dwarf rabbit out of a thousand who did not matter in the grand scheme of things. Imagine her surprise when Legoshi pulled her out of this darkness and told her that she was special, that she was perfect, and that she mattered. He never viewed her as lesser or put up a front, he always laid his feelings bare and accepted her for who she was, which led her to accept that she didn’t want to live without him in her life. Such a person caused Haru to stop chasing the thrill of brief relationships free from pain, and instead focus on Legoshi, in perhaps her first true relationship. Even as Legoshi trained to become stronger for the sake of capturing Tem’s killer while conquering the beast within, he still tried his best to make sense of it all. It resulted in his leaving Cherryton after Louis sacrificed his leg to him so he could capture that killer, somewhat breaking off his relationship with Haru in believing she still loved Louis, and living on his own as an adult in the society that had shaped them before firsthand. 

It was there that, as he grew up, he met Yahya as the current Beastar. Still angry at Gosha, and fascinated at history repeating itself with his grandson, he took on Legoshi as an ally against the criminal Melon; the child of a jaguar and gazelle. Melon grew up believing his father was devoured by his mother, was bullied for his hybrid features, and eventually became a serial killer who destroyed both his classmates and his mom. He could taste and experience nothing due to the senses of carnivores and herbivores, and wished for years to experience true feeling. Legoshi saw Melon as a symbol of what his future child with Haru could look like, and thus felt sad for him to the point of wanting to take him down himself, especially after his kindness was taken advantage of by Melon and he was shot. Training even harder with Louis’ old friends in the Black Market, and patching up his relationship with Haru, Legoshi had grown up, and he proved it by teaming up with Louis just as Gosha and Yahya once had. Fixing his relationship with his grandfather, speaking with his mother on the verge of life and death, and using the strength found in both, Legoshi set out to change the world that had created him. Alongside Gosha and Yahya, with Louis, the two became unofficial Beastars and defeated Melon while destroying the Black Market itself. Melon refused to believe different species and different people could truly bond, but as the clouds faded and the rain stopped, the lights came back on to reveal Carnivores and Herbivores holding hands as they always wished to do.

With that final physical and emotional victory, life progressed as normal with Legoshi. His friends grew up to do great things, like Louis becoming a kind husband to his fiance for his company. For him though, he chose to go back to school and work toward his interest in insects, all at Haru’s side. On one particular day, she herself asked him to marry her and then divorce her, out of the desire to continue the chase between Carnivore and Herbivore. She did not want to lose and be made weak, but he told her once again that he didn’t view it as a chase. Being with her made his tail wag, and being with him made her heart beat faster. He wanted to be with her and never be apart, and that was something special, which she accepted herself. It would be hard, painful, and tough to get through, but that itself was the message all along according to mangaka Paru Itagaki. She always wished to convey the difficulty of relationships through “interspecies,” or rather interpersonal, as simply different people with different pasts who found each other despite it all. That is where the value and beauty of life is shown, and what Legoshi finally found alongside Haru. He had clumsy dinners with her parents, and he introduced her to his grandfather. He was a slow but passionate boyfriend, and she was someone who was taught how to love for the first time. Despite their differences, and despite their similarities, the one thing they knew for sure is that they were happy, and they would be always as long as they had each other. Now and always… together forever.

Experience & Skill

Edward

Being the apex predator that he is, Edward is quite the fighter in all angles. He has been a vampire for 87 years (being 104 years old overall and being turned into a vampire when he was 17), and he’s put it to use quite well. Even though he’s tried his best to not eat humans for 74 years, he’s still just as deadly nonetheless. Whether it be bad people originally for blood or all manner of animals, he had no trouble killing them, and putting his hunter skills to the test. In that time, he picked up many traits and showed just how well he operates, such as years of theoretical medical experience, knowledge about spider and animal types, or being the best musician/most avid reader/greatest scientist of his family; on top of learning several languages. 

In combat or when tapping into his vast experience, Edward is rather adept at calculation and precision. He once quickly and casually mapped out the quickest route to traversing and killing a room of students before anybody would know what was happening just as a reflex, and has also mentioned it was easy to see the trajectory of an out of control vehicle. Similarly, by merely looking at a clock and knowing how fast a truck can go, he could determine that Bella would be late to meet him. Given his knowledge and senses, Edward is also capable of absurd detail about the world around him. In essence, he once triangulated the exact location of birds he could hear, and identified their individual genus and species from it. Then, he analyzed an irregular splash in the water and the amount displaced by the type of fish to determine the most likely variety, while also categorizing nearby insects by the speed of their wing movements, elevation of flight, or tiny sounds of legs clicking against the dirt. 

In more direct battle terms, Edward can scale most objects and buildings without a care, and has hunted all manner of the most dangerous animals for decades. Bluntly, he compared his own hunting style to that of a lion. This typically falls in line with those carnivorous cats stalking their prey until the opportune moment to strike, or strategically cornering them until they are out of options but to face the lion and their monstrous strength head on. When he hunts, he gives himself over to his senses and governs less with his mind, losing control over his actions to a degree. In this state, it also makes him not be able to differentiate prey by smell, and that he can not stop it, but it is quite relaxing to “stop thinking” for a few minutes. Given other vampires like Bree Tanner similarly turn their brains off in combat, this is pretty consistent. Even against other Vampires and the ferocious werewolves he fought over about two years that the series takes place across, he’s held his own just as well.

Legoshi

Given Beastars’ nature as a traditional Shonen just as much as a romance manga, it should come as no surprise that Legoshi can thrash around all manner of animal foes. Even without any real training while also dubbing himself “not athletic”, he still aided Gohin in fighting the entire Shishigumi crime family on their home turf. Even better, he single-handedly fought their boss and nearly killed him on his own once he tapped into his feral instincts (purposely ripping a non-fatal area of his throat), and he got even better as he went. In order to get stronger, he trained with Black Market Psychiatrist Gohin, a super-skilled fighter who has been prowling the streets for years to rehabilitate carnivores that consume meat. He taught Legoshi and had him study various facts about the animal kingdom of his foes, when Legoshi could already identify species by muscle mass/spots much earlier and immobilize species known for speed. Going further, he knew reptiles have a relatively dull sense of smell, wields knowledge on how birds fight, and what rabbits do when angry due to research on their biology. Put into practice, he had lessons on how to capture different species, like to punch the shins of a leopard to prevent running away and the throat of a bird to prevent yelling; all the while getting stronger by the day. 

This kind of skill wasn’t just picked up through excruciating training (see Stamina), but inherited as well. Gohin has stated Legoshi holds a natural talent and aptitude for combat, believing it to be genetic, and being proven right through his grandfather Gosha. Little backstory, Gosha was a similarly skilled teenager who spent his days fighting alongside future Beastar Yahya, while also comparing it to a mercenary's life in his later years. Legoshi was directly stated to inherit Gosha’s strength and skill, so him taking down the champion of Cherryton’s boxing club in seconds or sending foes flying in Sumo Wrestling, before all of his training with Gohin should make it evident how well of a fighter he is. Once he had to combat the ludicrously strong Riz, he started training even harder than before including weight lifting for strength, which resulted in tricks like tossing his jacket to blind him and giving follow-up kicks. He took on several Shishigumi thugs at once like a master martial artist, and actually won his fight with Riz on top of it all.  Even after things progressed and he mostly stopped training with Gohin, his skill didn’t stagnate by any means. 

Not only did he fight the Shishigumi again and earn their praise, but he was trained once more by underground fighter Kyu, who noted many of his moves were based on pure instinct related to who he was fighting. With her greater experience than him and greater combat skill she continued his training to the point of making him fight her to protect a giraffe, where after he outskilled her fairly blatantly. Compared to Shishigumi and Kyu, both took down Louis’ trained guards from Horns Conglomerate in seconds, while Kyu is the Champion of the Black Market’s UFS fight club, with 17 championship wins under her belt. Of course, none of this amounted to his battle with Carnivore-Herbivore hybrid Melon, which was dubbed “the most brutal and vicious” someone had seen in his entire life inside the Black Market. Don’t underestimate his intelligence either, as merely getting into the elite school that is Cherryton to begin with requires some pretty notable smarts, and Legoshi is no exception. Heck, Legoshi has a literal internal catalogue of the smells of “nearly every person” he’s ever met, and accompanying data on all of them. In order to find Tem’s killer, he started narrowing down suspects by the memory of the killer's teeth on his body, concluding that it was a male mammal because of the difference and size of teeth. He later figured out the killer's identity via remembering how the DNA tasted (because he basically French-kissed him, don’t bring it up, he doesn’t like to talk about it) and found the other carnivores DNA samples through water they drank, narrowing it down to Riz. So, if you think anything less than a pure monster in skill when facing Legoshi, frankly, you’re soon to be dead wrong. 

Arsenal

Edward

Crocs

Hey, Vampires take in the latest fashion. 

Legoshi 

School Backpack

For Legoshi’s various schooling needs. Might make a good bludgeon to be honest. 

Abilities

Edward

Vampire/Cold One Physiology

Due to being a Vampire, or “cold one” among the many other names for bloodsuckers in this world, Edward has enhanced all around the board physical stats, and a few more boons as well. For starters, most vampire “weaknesses” are myths, including burning in the sun or not being able to go out in the daytime. It takes a lot to actually kill one, primarily because of their being virtual apex predators that hunt every species on the planet with unnatural skill. They wield senses far beyond mortal creatures, teeth claimed to be strong as steel or able to pierce actual steel, claws able to pierce through even their super-hard skin and are microscopically porous as deduced by Carlisle’s studies. In essence, they can swallow and eat things, sure, but only blood is accepted into their bodies to give them substance, hence their drinking blood to survive. Edward’s Vampire body is immune to sickness and disease, agile enough to leap between multiple trees, able to somehow whisper so low no human could hear, and wields Peripheral vision.

Vampires also have an odd body, physically speaking. As the Twilight Illustrated Guide states, their 25-Chromosone (opposed to human 23) bodies take on a crystalline nature, resulting in their “sparkling” in the sun like a prism. This is actually an apt description, considering their incredibly hard skin is stated and shown compared to or harder than granite, while also looking like moving crystal to the sights of werwolves. Not only does this make their body tough to actually damage by anything but other people with strength like theirs, but a lack of blood or internal regulations make it literally impossible to tire them out in most cases. His father Carlisle literally swam to France through the English channel, in part because technically, vampires don't need to breathe, but that is still incredible. Edward himself has spent entire weekends hunting, and constantly ran halfway to Seattle after school upon meeting Bella; never tiring while doing so. For support, Rosalie carried Emmet (human at that point) over 100 miles once in a short timeframe with no major problems, so the sheer stamina they wield is nothing to scoff at. 

That goes double for their physical capabilities, considering they can run over 100 miles an hour and lift several hundred times their own body weight. Even mentally, vampires are still far beyond us normal humans. They have pretty much a perfect recall of memory, like how Edward knows the location/details of every house in Forks by memory, and their minds can think many times faster than humans. They’re also unnaturally stealthy, such as how Edward can climb a tree in Bella’s yard right near her without her noticing, or Carlisle’s movements being undetectable to Bella even when they were the same room. Also, yes, he will snarl when mad.

Enhanced Senses

All Vampires have senses far beyond the norm, and Edward is no exception. For his hearing, as Bella puts it, all of the Cullens can pick up on things "too faint for my ears." Even changes in sound as simple as snow to rain on the school ceiling seemed loud to him, and he can converse with other Vampires at voices so low or fast no human can hear them with no problem. Edward can similarly hear and listen to heartbeats as well as your breathing from 100 yards or even miles away if he knows you well enough, like Bella. He has compared people’s heart beats and breathing patterns before, and repeatedly discerned when hearts speed up. Heck, Vampires can even hear people in sound-proof rooms under the right circumstances 

As for smell, Edward is no less impressive. He can obviously smell blood, but also track others like humans or animals through their scents, and easily tell when new threats have been in the area. Vampires can become aware of select bodily traits like your blood from as little as your hair moving slightly in the wind, smell people from objects as little as their keychains, and can accurately discern most materials just from their schnoz. Both Edward and Alice knew it was easy to smell metal, much less some painted with the oils of Bella's fingers/her scent. He has also smelled oregano, garlic, onions, and tomato sauce in Italian food, while Bella instantly smelled various new things upon becoming a vampire herself. Edward may rely on his scent most in times of stress, but it’s nothing to be ashamed of given how powerful it is. 

For sight, Vampires eyes do a lot more than change color depending on their hunger. Edward can see objects from hundreds of yards away, but is also incredibly precise. His eyesight can see the "microscopic pits and flaws” in his car's windshield, and tell Bella moved a fraction of a centimeter. Heck, when Bella became a Vampire, she could clearly see glowing strands of filaments in a light bulb, each color of the spectrum plus an 8th one she couldn't name, along with the individual wood grains in the ceiling plus more details on a microscopic level. 

Lastly are Edward’s taste and touch. With the former, he has scanned every movement of the air that touched his skin, and could reportedly easily moderate the pressure of his hand; saying that his tactile sense was better than a humans and that he could juggle a dozen crystal goblets with none breaking as well as stroke a soap bubble without it popping. For the latter, he can taste the air, like how when around prey it tastes like fire and a need for brutal violence, or how the air and sunshine affects Bella's scent, or Bella being able to taste much more than she could as a human while a Vampire. All in all, saying Vampires wield "acute senses" is more than accurate, and Edward’s can even flail out wildly to search for danger.

Mind Reading

Unlike most Vampires, the Cullens have unique “gifts” unlike other Vampires, with various special ones around the world being the only ones to replicate this. This is theorized by Carlisle as certain pre-existing human traits magnified once one becomes a Vampire, and since Edward was already adept at reading people's intentions, he could thus telepathically read minds at will. He describes this as hearing one's voice; it being easier if he is familiar with the person, and up to a few miles away, but no more (he usually has to tune it out due to it making it hard to focus for him). This power is exceedingly versatile, with various applications that Edward has unlocked over the years through training and dedication. He can find people easier, saying once he hears one's mind it is easy to find them. He can see thoughts like images in one’s head, such as his reading the minds of everybody Bella spoke to after the car incident to ensure she kept his secret. 

These thoughts he perceives are repeatedly shown as very precise notations, like from Jasper, Mike, or various other Vampires like his family, which also extends to other usages in this vein. He can view your internal fantasies, thousands of images in your head despite trying to block them out, mental powers like Alice’s visions, or rapidly search the recent memories of every person in a parking lot (dozens at leas). Through that, he can discern your emotions, your plans of action, etc, though he can’t ignore the thoughts inside the heads of others. Edward’s telepathy can scan several hundred voices at once, though he can concentrate harder than usual to hear someone and tune these thoughts out. 

Of note, this power also lets Edward more easily know the location of others. He has implied he simply knows where all police are when driving over 100 mph (which is why he never gets a ticket). Even so, he knows where to find people via this method despite being a decent distance away from him, like to track people across multiple cities. Because of this, even Vampires can’t possibly sneak up on Edward, and he can hear the thoughts of others from miles away. Edward’s telepathy also extends to feeling your feelings, bluntly speaking, such as a Tracker’s obsession over catching. Sadness, envy, worry, relief,  astonishment, anger, attraction/love, surprise, fear, dread, the list goes on (seriously just read Midnight Sun, there's several examples). When he met Alice who had already foreseen their relationship, he heard her love so strongly that he thought she was a lost sibling. He can even glimpse your memories, but you do have to be thinking of them, since he can’t just dig them up from your head. This is clearly getting quite abstract and lengthy, so let’s just list some more useful or miscellaneous applications 

• Senses Experience - Should he need to, Edward can see through the perspective of others, almost watching through their memories like a TV.

• Dream Scan - While limited, Edward has seen the edge of Charlie's dream and could semi-tell what it was.

• Pseudo-Precognition - While not exactly true, it is the most apt description. Because he can scan thoughts, Edward can essentially see your move coming before you make it, which makes him all the more deadly. Even Emmet, despite his superior strength, has yet to beat him in a wrestling match due to how he uses it in fights. More experienced fighters like Jasper also have problems with this in earlier fights, and he can better stop your attacks because of it, though Emmet calls it “cheating” and it is implied he lacks experience fighting without it. Still, it is claimed Edward can know every move before you make it and act accordingly, which is quite an impressive boon. Now, this doesn’t make him invincible or untouchable in combat, which has been proven numerous times. Emmet took him by surprise, merely walking up to the truck while he was thinking har and scaring him, both basically asserting that was the case. This implies his mind reading has to be turned on, or he can be tricked/slipped past while thinking too hard, with more information in his weaknesses. 

Immortality

Of all the myths surrounding Vampires, this one is perhaps the most accurate for the Colds Ones like Edward. Their body and biology are so different from ours that they do not age, rendering them unchanging and immortal forevermore. Edward himself has not changed at all in 80+ years, with his father Carlisle having the same effect since the 1600s, and several vampires being shown as several millennia old. Emmet implies this will go on for eternity, so that eternal nature is fitting, but it also gives way to how Vampires can’t really die by most means. Edward is incapable of going unconscious, and suicide is basically impossible unless by other Vampires, like how he lacks a circulatory system (blood vessels that pump blood to and from the heart, carry stuff like oxygen to it, remove bad stuff like carbon monoxide, etc). From all this, Edward doesn’t need to breathe and can easily stop the air flow into his lungs, so drowning or choking are out of the question. Even starvation doesn’t work, only causing immense pain. 

Because they can only be killed a few ways, they can fight through basically everything. Jacob has noted that Vampires can be put back together even when mangled into a jigsaw puzzle or torn apart. Even in battle, they can get mauled and have parts of their body torn off yet still fight, such as Victoria, with torn off limbs being sentient to some degree. Now, their regeneration is rather slow, to the point that they can only reattach limbs in battle if they get the chance, and as this goes on they can be further damaged until their head is ripped clean off. That notion is furthered in Bree Tanner’s story, where Vampires can fight through limb loss, but need to reattach those limbs with Venom, with descriptions stating they need to do so to “heal.” That can aid them for multiple days of training, but they need to continuously reattach limbs to do so, and wouldn’t really have that chance in combat. That begs the question: what “kills” a Vampire? As elaborated upon, the only surefire way to kill a Vampire is to tear it to shreds and burn the pieces. This is how the Cullens have killed enemies before, with Rosalie equating “over my dead body” to “over my pile of ashes.” 

Granted, you need to incapacitate them before burning them lest they might escape, but stronger foes with enough ferocity can simply tear them to shreds before burning them even if they aren’t Vampires, such as Werewolves. Actually, this was first discovered by the ancient Quilette tribe Jacob is descended from, where a Werewolf tore a Vampire to literal shreds and killed it. The elders discovered that after enough time, the pieces would slowly try to reassemble themselves, which scared them enough that they lit the pieces on fire to truly kill it, and that actually worked; becoming the main strategy in killing these creatures. The movies extend on this as our primary visual source, showing that shattering or decapitating Vampires is good enough to essentially “kill” them, where while they may heal later, it would take far too long to continue the fight. Edward himself decapitated Victoria and essentially “killed her” until he lit her on fire with a lighter, whereas other battles in both Eclipse and Breaking Dawn have people suffer similar injuries like losing limbs or otherwise and not being able to really heal them or get up any time soon if at all. Edward getting his head ripped off in New Moon was treated as him “dying,” with such being implied as a devastating injury that would lead to death via burning.

Venom

As the sort of super-predator that he is, Edward has one key weapon that all creatures succumb to; like a spider’s poisonous bite, which fits its description as Venom. While not fatal, the Venom is incapacitating, so that once bitten, the prey is in too much pain to escape or move. As long as the heart keeps beating, the poisonous Venom spreads throughout the body, changing it, and after a few days of agonizing pain the victim will become a vampire. Venom changes every cell in the body, though this takes time, and it can heal excruciating injuries but can’t heal lost limbs. Oppositely, it is not like Acid, and needs to be in the Bloodstream to do anything; thereby making it not a problem if it just touches your skin. Edward subconsciously generates and prepares it in his mouth as an involuntary reflex whenever he is hungry or when his instincts take over, but it does go away when he calms down. Just slashes in a palm of your hand and bicep can work to turn you into a Vampire as it did on Carlisle, but not getting in any primary blood vessels or anything like that makes the process slower. 

Venom leaves scars on Vampires, and did a thousand times on Jasper. It does have healing properties for humans turning into Vampires, such as Bella being healed from multiple broken bones, vomiting blood, pregnancy issues, and apparently a broken spine on top of flailing. Bella compared the pain of it to “getting sawed in half, hit by a bus, punched by a prize fighter, trampled by bulls, and submerged in acid, all at the same time.” Later, she said having her leg broken by James was “a soft place to rest on a feather bed” compared to it, and she'd gladly take it 100 times over instead. The Illustrated Guide dubs it comparable in pain to burning alive, and even Morphine wouldn't work on it. Vampires ripping at your throat is usually how they would deliver it, but despite its usefulness, Edward hasn’t actually used this in combat, weirdly. Even against Werewolves who this would be effective against, so how he would go about it in combat is odd. In that territory, Werewolves in Twilight are immune to both the change and the pain-producing properties of Vampire Venom, but instead acts as a retardant that poisons their healing while not killing them on its own.

Resistances

• Cold Temperatures - The guy literally never uses his AC in his car. Being serious, he has mentioned before that he had to "pretend” he felt the cold, with him and other vampires unbothered in “wintery” temperatures.

• Electricity - While listing stuff fatal to a human but not to vampires, lightning was one of them, implying Vampires can resist or survive such shocks.

Legoshi

Gray Wolf Hybrid Physiology

Taking a page out of the many, many werewolf fighting game characters, Legoshi is a gray wolf; the largest Carnivora Canidae in the world. Being such a fierce species, Legoshi is often perceived as much more haunting than his personality actually is, solely due to what he is. Herbivores starting out fearing him isn't entirely unfounded, since, well, just look at the guy. As a wolf, Legoshi is mostly nocturnal, and can see in the dark without a problem like other Carnivores. His senses are also top-notch, where he can track others down even in the dark. Natural to carnivores, Legoshi instinctively reads his opponent and compares traits like weight or bite force, enabling him to better fight them by noting mutual strengths or weaknesses. 

Speaking of natural strengths, his teeth and claws are the perfect weapons for most any foe. When things started he had a bite force of 4,267 PSI, although it did diminish as he trained to not eat meat. Actually, the power of Jaws was transferred to his arms and legs, increasing his physicality and making him much stronger than before. After he ate Louis’ leg it is questionable what the relationship is, but it should be relatively the same. His claws though are unchanged, being 2.4 inch claws that grow back the day after he cuts them. With them, he has deeply wounded foes on par with or stronger than him, such as Riz or Melon. Of course, being a wolf comes with other benefits. He has a pretty good sense of balance, allowing him to work on scaffolding for drama club. He is naturally a bit stealthy, being called "quiet as a stone" by Louis, and rapidly disappearing from an area without Jack noticing. His body reacts instinctively to danger to take down lions before his more rational thoughts catch up with him or other metrics like altering his attacks, and all of this is due to his nature as a beast hybrid. 

His grandfather was Gosha, an incredibly strong Komodo Dragon, and much of his nature transferred over to Legoshi due to being born 25% reptile. Besides just his strength and skill, Legoshi’s own muscles and bones are incredibly tough to all carnivores. Even Hyenas can't bite through him nor pull their fangs out once sunk into his flesh, with this Hyena noted to have a much stronger bite-force than normal and Hyenas in our world being able to eat through weakened steel cages. What’s more, Riz couldn't chew through his limbs either without permanently ruining his jaws; even remarking his stomach was “as hard as a rock” and that his fangs couldn't reach his vitals while he was off his strength medication. This notion is consistent, considering Melon's claws weren’t strong enough to slash through the jugular of a lion and thus he didn't kill him, or how even as early as the Shishigumi Lion boss, he couldn’t bite through Legoshi’s flesh. Another detail of Legoshi’s heritage is that he is naturally immune to Komodo Dragon venom due to being descended from one, and his mother Leanno was the very same. He also gets his huge stature from Gosha, and his mom claimed he would grow up to be stronger and gentler than any wolf with a purebred lineage due to his hybrid nature. 

Enhanced Senses

Being a wolf, Legoshi has just as impressive senses as his real life counterpart, and far more so as he grew. For hearing, he could hear a Rattlesnake slithering around in the walls when none of the other carnivores in his dorm or even the entire school could, and he was the only one aware of that snake for weeks before she revealed herself to him. From his sight, let’s look back to his analyzing various vital statistics about his enemies including blatant measurements merely from looking at them. Even aside from that, Legoshi could instantly tell what type of rabbit Haru was, so his scanning skills are pretty impressive to say the least. His touch could tell the difference between a Leopard and Jaguar based on bone mass while restraining him, while his taste enabled him to track down Tem’s killer from the memory of the killer’s teeth and the DNA of his saliva. Most impressive of all is his sense of smell, which is rather absurd even for him. 

It has been noted that Legoshi in particular has a pretty good sniffer, unlike anybody else in the series besides maybe Melon. When in use, he can easily smell people at least 30 feet away from him even in a thick mist, while also sensing the body, shape, and size. The anime gives the visual impression that it formed a picture in his brain, and he could even “see” where the smell was coming from. Going further, he can identify differences in various flowers, analgesic plaster on Louis, rabbit blood on Bill’s person, Carnivore saliva and sweat, differences between soap types, tell if a mosquito is on someone, and of course track others down. He followed Haru’s scent across a city, tracked Melon’s scent to the tattoo shop he was in, and even smelled Pina tied up 1.3 miles from his current location based on his blood splattered on Riz, as well as the specific nature of his wound. When he says his sense of smell gets “a hundred times more sensitive” when he’s protecting an Herbivore, he means it. 

His smell can get pretty specific as well, allowing him to discern tobacco, the contents of a spiked drink, or tell how well the mixed blood in a container is on both sides of the donors. He even keeps a catalogue of every person he’s ever met with data on virtually anything, down to a specific ballpoint pen. Even when he was attacked by a carnivore while he had a cold, he dodged the sneak attack, and it was expressly noted the only reason such a method was tried was because his sense of smell was dulled at this point. So, good freaking luck trying to sneak past his senses with all this in mind

Enhanced Stamina/Pain Tolerance

When we say Legoshi is an animal or a monster, we don’t just mean it in terms of his nature. This guy goes through some of the most brutal pain or attacks and rarely ever bats an eye, to his benefit or detriment. Even starting, Bill once deeply scratched his back with both hands, drawing out a lot of blood to the point where he could barely stand, and he never really showed pain from such lacerations. Against the Shishigumi boss, who dug his claws into his chest and bit his arm, he pushed past it all to literally tear his throat out, though he did lose consciousness for a bit. Elsewhere, he was brutally slammed around enough to cause concussions and bleeding in his head by Riz, and barely even cared despite physical injury, like when he was mostly unresponsive at his arm bitten by a hyena. He’s been scratched enough to show scars by Riz and still fought on, or how about the time he ripped out his fangs with minimal signs of physical pain? Such an action causes extensive trauma and severe bleeding to the point of threatening your life, but the entire reason he did it was to punch Yahya in the face, which he did like a champ. 

That kind of pain tolerance is both natural and enforced, where Gohin trained him at an insanely rapid pace that literally ran him dogged for several weeks. This aimed to transform his metabolism by methods like resisting eating meat in front of him while locked in the same room for several hours, and he overcame his urges in only a week; something Gohin believed was impossible. Even aside from mental challenges, the schedule had Legoshi train with Gohin immediately after school from dusk til’ dawn, then go to school from dawn to dusk, and then do it again on repeat every single day. Not only that, but he ran to and from the city each time exclusively, and his only real chances to sleep were at school in short periods. He’s been slammed around by more powerful foes to the point of breaking his ribs and being close to death but still moved like normal, and while things like gunshots have nearly killed him, he still has the guts to get up and leave his hospital room with extensive injuries to his internal organs. Heck, Kyu forced him to starve for his training for literal weeks, and although this was helped due to the biological ability to hibernate, he still went without food for several weeks while his enemies did not. Even more so, he drew extensive amounts of blood for a project with Louis, when the same amounts made the deer dizzy enough to faint multiple times, yet Legoshi was apparently just fine. 

Poison Immunity

As we mentioned with Legoshi’s abilities, his 25% Komodo Dragon heritage ensured he grew up with a natural resistance to Komodo Dragon poison, where it merely tastes like bittersweet marmalade to him. This is somewhat branched out to all poisons period, and especially impressive when you look at what Komodo Dragon Venom does. It is obviously lethal, specifically when it hits the mucous membranes and when its user is angry, where it takes on an almost acidic consistency that can melt straight through floors or metal. It can liquify metal or concrete, with another Komodo Dragon melting through the already weakened stability of a building wall, while minor spits of Gosha's poison could dissolve multiple news cameras. 

On a person, this rots flesh with the tiniest drop. It is referred to as caustic (able to corrode flesh), with just a mere touch being lethal, and kisses rotting flesh in seconds. His poison has other uses too, like slowing down larger creatures to immobilize them. In real life (with such biological functions being quite consistent in Beastars), Komodo Dragon Venom is one of the deadliest larger lizards hold; being able to ensue massive blood loss, shock, intense pain, muscle paralysis, and other factors over the course of multiple days while killing you. Some online accounts describe the pain of this bite akin to “your blood burning inside you,” and again, Legoshi is completely immune to this. Actually, trying it on him invites an odd multiplication of his resistance and regeneration that grew back his fangs instantly.

Rage State

When Legoshi is angry enough, he can become overwhelmed by his predatory instincts and go into a feral rage where those same instincts appear to guide his actions. It seems to boost his physicality in some way as all his restraint is removed, with his embracing this beast within allowing him to overpower and outmatch lions Gohin previously said were stronger than him. It’s not like he fully loses his sanity either, as he has been able to control the more feral obsessions and still fight smart against the Shishigumi boss. 

Moth Dispersal

With the power of anime nonsense, Legoshi has… whatever this is. So, brief recap, Legoshi consumed a live larva as part of his training in an effort to value life, which resulted in the spirit of this Moth speaking to him and encouraging him to follow his destiny. Against Riz, an antithesis to Legoshi’s belief and desire for true friendship between carnivores and herbivores, Legoshi somehow burst into thousands of moths for a surprise attack on Riz. In the manga, it tricked Riz and made him believe it was an illusion, with such only stopping as Legoshi made his next attack under its guise. The anime operated similarly, so it’s likely an illusion Legoshi can use to trick his opponents and land a clean hit from the moth storm.

Imaginary Chimera

Rounding out Legoshi’s list of techniques is his first true one learned; the Imaginary Chimera. It is a fighting method to trip up foes that he learned from Kyu, who fought in fighting rings against various carnivores to murder them in seconds. The way it works is by visualizing what you lack to conjure that difference, which fits such kindred spirits as them. Kyu grew up as sold stock held in a virtual jail inside the Black Market alongside Louis, with her only purpose being to live and die as food. Being imprisoned for years by stronger carnivores, she based her Chimera off of that hate and envy of that strength, resulting in her Chimera being a wolf. In essence, the more intense your feelings for other species, the stronger your Chimera, and even stronger ones benefit from an insecurity complex. You can see where this is going. 

Legoshi quickly picked up the concept, due to his desire to stay with Haru forever, and rabbits pretty much being his type. So, it is a rabbit Chimera, and unlocking it allowed him to punch a wall with such fury that it began steaming. Given the usage of the Chimera being to unlock potential and how Kyu uses it to triumph over superior foes, it is evident this unlocks some latent strength in Legoshi to boost his even further. While Kyu didn’t train him initially, he was a prodigy and did so on his first try, so she decided to do so. Of note, Chimera’s are essential illusions that supplant an enemy’s perception of Legoshi and them only, making them see his Chimera for themselves. 

Resistances

• Pain - Yeah just look at his stamina lol. 

• Poison/Venom - From his Komodo Dragon lineage, Legoshi is basically immune to Komodo Dragon venom and likely poison in general, with more information given earlier (See Abilities).

Feats

Edward

Overall

• Successfully conquered his bloodthirst; for humans and for Bella

• Evaded human detection as a Vampire for most of a century with his family

• Lived a life of peace towards humans for several decades before meeting Bella

• Saved Bella’s life numerous times from several Vampires

• Generally stalemated his stronger and more skilled brothers in most matches against each other

• Formed a family with Bella and their daughter Renessme

• Defeated James, Victoria, Aro (potential future in the movies only with Bella’s help), himself

• Became a cultural icon (for better or worse) in Vampire media

Power

• Against humans, he wields strength able to shatter entire human arms, backhand people across rooms, and pulverize skulls 

• Stated he could "annihilate" Mike; leaving not even the tiniest fragment of his body, or mangle a man so badly his body could never be identified

• Has casually killed a group of Elk, a Black Bear, and snapped a lion's neck

• Slammed the tracker into and cratered a wooden floor

• His pushing against Emmet cracked the large rock they were sitting on

• Stated every limb of his body was "unyielding as steel"

• Fought Victoria with such strength that their strikes created large echoes throughout the cliff area, threw another vampires arm hard enough to smash her through a tree, and ripped her body apart after outmatching her

• Effortlessly ripped a 2 foot thick branch from a tree with one hand, then threw it against another so hard it shattered and shook that tree (16.365 Kilojoules)

• Said he could kick down the wall of an airplane and is claimed able to throw a buick through a wall (31.64 Kilojoules)

• Accidentally uprooted a young spruce tree with one hand while angered (60 Kilojoules)

• Stopped an out of control van without much effort (249.85 Kilojoules)

• Midnight Sun elaborates on this, saying it forced him back a bit into a car, with him considering throwing the van away, and he picked it up a bit so the tire wouldn't crush Bella.

• Alice has noted he can lift and throw cars and Edward has stated he could always stop a speeding car for Bella's protection (489.5 Kilojoules - 1.472 Megajoules)

• Implies himself able to catch meteorites (27.47 - 66.42 Megajoules, Inapplicable, see Before the Verdict)

Speed

Physically

• Beat the tracker among other things in a quarter second, noting later he was a millisecond too slow

• Plays Badminton in "slow motion" yet people still miss

• Ran halfway to Seattle over a few hours so fast everything became a green blur around him

• Circled the meadow he and Bella were in twice in half a second, where Midnight Sun has him determine the area of the meadow was roughly 11,035 square feet 

• Ran back to Forks in a straight line from Port Angeles in minutes

• Searched Bella's house in 2 seconds FTE to Charlie and Bella

• Spun and moved across a room in “what seemed like no time at all, not even the smallest part of a second”

• Pinned Bella down in a sparring match in 2 seconds

• Fought Jasper, using his mind reading to see his moves slightly faster and make the fight a draw 

• Frequently moves faster than Bella could track him, with the most notable examples being his running to Bella from four cars away before she could close her eyes while counting hundredths of a second between moving her, although this wasn’t a casual race and he was trying quite hard

• Said he wanted to run so fast that he would "disappear, so fast it would feel like flying"

Mind Reading and Processing

• Listened to Carlisle's mind as a newbie in the "tiniest part of a second"

• Read Alice's mind in "the tiniest portion of a second" which was long enough for him

• Processed a conversation he had with Bella last night/previous chapter, word for word in "a moment"

• Thought of a thousand different possibilities/ways to touch Bella in an instant so as to not harm her

• Thought over something for the smallest part of a second

• Processed portions of Alice's life up to that point in moments, as did she (Inapplicable, see Before the Verdict)

Durability

• Edward and Bella casually fell 2 stories 

• Called bulletproof by Bella

• Stated by both Bella and himself able to walk away from a car crash just fine

• Rosalie said she would ram him with her car, with the text implying it would only damage the car

• Said he would jump out of a crashing airplane with Bella and presumably be fine

• Vampire bodies are compared to the following materials in durability (See Before the Verdict)

• “Like kicking Concrete”

• “Hard as Granite/Stone”

• “Strong as Steel”

• “Diamond-like/hard Body

• Compared himself to being hard, cold, and throwing rainbows in the sunlight

Legoshi

Overall

• Successfully conquered his predatory instincts of a Carnivore; for Herbivores and for Haru

• Rescued Haru from the Shishigumi alongside Gohin

• Discovered and caught Tem’s killer, Riz

• Ripped his own teeth out just so he could punch Yahya in the face

• Fasted for numerous weeks before his final showdown with Melon

• Dubbed the Beastar by the Black Market

• Found true love with Haru

• Defeated Shishigami Boss, Riz, Melon, himself

• Mostly defeated the furry allegations (the series is unironically really good)

• The anime absolutely crushes in music

Power

• Casually blocked a punch from the mongoose Kai

• Smashed a bathroom window in one punch without even getting cut from the glass, and bashed through an office window

• Held a 4,267 PSI bite force before training reduced it, when other adult wolves have a 2,900 PSI Bite Force

• Hugged Louie so hard he thought he'd break his bones

• Physically overpowered Bill and launched him multiple feet while he was doping on rabbit blood

• Bill is a bengal tiger, who have a paw swipe force of 9.49-45.42 Kilojoules per second and physically tackle with a force of 32.71 Kilojoules per second.

• Physically overpowered a Jaguar student, holding his jaws open from a bite and pinning him to the floor. 

• Jaguars have a bite-force of 1,500 PSI

• Punches Louis hard enough to launch him diving into concrete

• Overpowered and knocked out a lion in a single headbutt

• Physically overpowers and pushes the Shishigumi Boss off of himself, ripping out part of his throat later

• Cratered his dorm wall in a punch

• Crushed a spotlight in his hands (19.123 Megajoules)

• Slammed a Hyena into a wall to crater it (103.975 Megajoules, edited in the post comments)

• Harmed Riz, punched him through a gate, and matched him, with the latter taking place without his strength medication

• Punched and launched Yahya (See Before the Verdict)

• Cracked a wall while using his Imaginary Chimera

• Deeply scratched Melon with his claws, fought him, and defeated him while nearly tearing his throat out

Speed

• Reached Haru from several feet away in a “couple of seconds” 

• Blitzed a lion from multiple feet away before he could even see him move (28.65 m/s)

• Lions actually process motion faster than humans, so this would likely be higher

• Caught a surprise punch from Gohin 

• Appeared to dodge bullets (See Before the Verdict)

• Ran away from gunfire by police chasing him

• Hid multiple lizard tails from an explosion when they were connected to those bombs (Mach 1.22)

• Matched Melon at the Black Market and defeated him

Durability

• Was punched with all Gohin’s might 

• Slammed into a wall by a disguised Riz (80 Kilojoules)

• Fell face first off a 3 story building and was just mildly pissed off

• Unharmed falling off a large hill and wasn't harmed with the Shishigumi thinking that would be suicide in the anime 

• Survived extensive damage to his body during his battle with an unsuppressed Riz, before his own amp through eating Louis’ leg

• Slammed into pillars several times by Riz, with one heavily cracking a wall

• Fell off a 10-story building into some bushes and was pretty much uninjured

• Fell through an elevator shaft of a ten-story building through the floor and was merely dazed

• Kicked and stomped on by Yahya, and was punched for a plan elsewhere

• Tanked getting wailed on and strangled by Melon

• Tanked a point-blank explosion from a tail-bomb (271.488 Megajoules)

• He got up from this mostly fine, and tanked 3 more blasts of this same bomb type from other Madaragumi soldiers (814.464 Megajoules)

Scaling

Edward

The Cullen Family

While not related by blood, the Cullens do share the same creator through Carlisle, and have routinely proven on par with each other for the most part. In Edward's case, he matched strength with a frenzied Jasper for a time, and stalemates Emmet in their play wrestling matches. Therefore, along with his outright being stated as the fastest of the Cullens, Edward should be broadly comparable to the rest of his family. Although, it should be noted that Emmet's full strength prevented his moving, so that is a clear cap on his power.

All:

• Bella said when the Cullens ran "they all but turned invisible with their speed"

Carlisle: 

• Hit a baseball so hard Edward was unconvinced it could be explained as Thunder

Emmet (NOTE: Edward doesn’t scale to his full strength):

• Hit a baseball hard enough that it reverberated through the mountains and sounded more like an explosion to Edward

• Flipped a STI into oncoming traffic

• A "strong one" of a bear dragged his claws across Emmets chess in a swipe, and it didn't pierce his skin, but he did say he "could almost feel it"

• When arm wrestling Bella, she thought he could “pound right through” the Granite rock they were arm wrestling on, which he did later to turn it into an avalanche of shards and powder. When he lost, kicked a rock and sliced a young maple tree in half, thudding at the base of a big fir to knock it down

• While arm wrestling him, Bella compared his strength to a Cement Truck doing more than 60 mph (13.9 - 31.73 Megajoules)

• Bella semi-humorously asked Edward to meet with Jasper and Emmet before they “break my house” (Inapplicable, see Before the Verdict)

• Went from somewhere in Seattle to Forks in 30 minutes

Rosalie: 

• Made Edward want to hide his Aston Martin so she wouldn't leave it "mangled and burned”

• As a somewhat New Vampire, Rosalie ran over 100 miles in a short amount of time to save a dying Emmet (Mach 1.56)

Jasper:

• Jasper moved FTE to Bella in brief moments, like a ghost

Alice:

• Spoke faster than "the speed of a hummingbird's wings"

• Bella somewhat compared her moving speed to that of a bullet

• Repeatedly views visions of the future (Inapplicable, see Before the Verdict)

Werewolves/Quiletes 

As the immortal enemies to each other, the Cullen family would match up pretty well with the Cullens and thus Edward. They’ve fought alongside each other against other Vampires or against each other, with both sides being capable of killing the other within a small margin. So, it makes sense how Edward would come to compare to them. 

Jacob:

• Jacob said internally he wanted a good “break the trees down” match with another werewolf

• Thought he would total Edward's car

• Kicked Rosalie through part of a door frame, chipping part of it off

• Can run faster than a motorcycle

• Jacob ran from his house to Bella's in under a minute as per context

Leah:

• Leah first turning into a werewolf destroyed a couch

• Leah said she was running the line back to Seth (the goat) “at the speed of light” that got to an incredible velocity that made the trees whip around her (lol, lmao even)

Other Vampires

Since the Cullens are some of the more impressive Vampires in Twilight, and given their various showings against those other Vampires as well as the Volturi, we can also compare Edward to more general feats from other Cold Ones throughout the series.

Miscellaneous:

• Vampires can survive earthquakes, floods, escape fire, etc, and are only really threatened by other Vampires

• A mob of 50 men in the 1640's were no more danger to a Vampire than a "kaleidoscope of butterflies"

• A vampire ignored gunfire, with them looking like flies to him to him

• Riley threw Raoul through a wall, making “an enormous hole”

• A vampire in the past “broke the bow of an old boat with her incredible strength”

• Laurent could rip a large spruce tree out of the ground with little effort 

• Vampires can throw minivans across football fields (491.52 Kilojoules - 12.29 Megajoules)

• Tanya, another vampire, ran across snow so fast she didn't leave tracks by Edward's admission, with him doing the same thing the next page

• Bella believed Victoria could close the gap between them and kill her in less than a second

• Bella stated any of the Vampires in their party could have leaped 50 yards in just a fraction of a second (Mach 1.33)

Benjamin (Inapplicable, see Before the Verdict): 

• Benjamin has the ability to “influence the elements-earth, wind, water, and fire in true physical manipulation, no illusion of the mind”

• Called “the earth mover” by another Vampire

• Opened “a deep narrow fissure” across the middle of a clearing, rocking Bella's feet

• In the potential war on the battlefield during the movie, this crevice extended deep enough to reach magma/lava

Aro

• Slaughtered everyone in a village

• Claimed able to “read every thought a mind has ever had” (Inapplicable, see Before the Verdict)

New Vampires (Inapplicable, see Before the Verdict)

Due to the worldbuilding of Twilight, we know that a “newborn” Vampire is actually several times more powerful than your average Vampire like Edward. So, he can’t exactly scale to them. Granted, he and others could kill them when they fought in battles like Eclipse, but that was only due to all of them having the same durability; not the same strength. Emmet explicitly lost an arm wrestling contest without much competition to Bella, and his gift is physical strength beyond his siblings or most other Vampires. This mostly acts as a ceiling for Edward’s strength and capabilities, with more information being given later.

Bella Swan:

• Thought that she could tunnel under the river/claw and beat her way through the bedrock in a short time, and that trees/shrubs/the Cullen House looked fragile

• Casually beat Emmet in an arm wrestling match, with her winning cracking the rock they did so on to break off 1/8 of it. After, she punched a granite rock similar to Emmet herself, comparing the consistency to hard cheese, than split another in half with a karate chop and turned it to fragments

• Emmet said “the Forrest needs thinning” when talking about training with Bella

• Emmet jokingly thought Edward and Bella having sex in their house would have “knocked it to rubble by now” after their previous night (Inapplicable, see Before the Verdict)

• Emmet and Rosalie have also knocked down houses multiple times when they had sex

• Moved in 1/16th and 1/8th of a second

• Debated over something for one small piece of a second

• Considered something for 1/64th of a second

• Jumped across a 50 yard wide river in less than a second

Bree Tanner:

• Shoved a stick against another Newborns chest with enough force to break a granite slab

• Ran 60 miles with another vampire in a short time

• Noted that bullets “wouldn’t make a dent” in her

Miscellaneous:

• Flipped and thrown cars

• Lifted “a huge boulder” to cover a human sized hole for dumping bodies

• A few Newborns destroyed a house while fighting, with it being implied to have happened before (0.53 Tons of TNT, Inapplicable, see Before the Verdict)

• 17 Newborn Vampires were responsible for sinking a ferry through structurally crumbling the middle in a few minutes, making it sink through that way

• A few new vampires could “destroy half a village” in olden times in a tantrum

• A few vampires ran to a city so fast they looked like they were flying to Jasper and disappeared in the blink of an eye

Life and Death Variants (Inapplicable, see Before the Verdict)

For those who don't know, Life And Death was a reimagining of the original book where nearly the entire cast was gender-swapped, making Edward and Bella now Edythe and Beau, just for example. As for why this could be applicable, it is a reimagining of the Twilight story, where not much changed beyond minor circumstances like in the Cullen's backstories, and in a virtually unnoticeable alteration to the Volturi. With that in mind, and the words of the author, it's possible that Edward and any other Vampire from the original series can compare to their counterparts. However, given the context of what happens in the book, it will not be scaled to Edward, with our reasoning why given Before the Verdict.

Miscellaneous: 

• All Vampires are able to run faster than a race car while being stronger than any other living species on the planet

Edythe (Edward's counterpart):

• Mentioned that she could lift 5,000 lbs when she needed to, in regards to when she saved Beau from the van

• Tossed a boulder about half her size across a forest without much effort  https://homeguide.com/costs/landscape-boulders-cost#:~:text=Table_title:%20How%20much%20do%20landscape%20boulders%20weigh?,Stones%20per%20ton:%201%20%E2%80%93%203%20%7C (calc)

• Beau thought she was faster than a cheetah and a bullet

• Ran the 5 mile walk from the original novel in seconds instead of minutes, while again being compared to a bullet

Eleanor (Emmet’s counterpart):

• Edythe stated she could “lift a mountain over her head,” which is mirrored later

Archie (Alice’s counterpart): 

• Archie saw “over a hundred different ways” yesterday could have gone, with these visions being decently precise

• Talking about how he sees the world, he stated “the first second you became part of Edythe's life, for me it was like we'd already spent hundreds of hours together.” 

• Saw 28 years ahead to view Jessamine

Legoshi

Various Beasts

Legoshi frequently proved himself greater than most Beasts in his world across the story, and he would certainly outmatch anything the vast majority can do. This includes general comparison to named Beasts like Bill, Gohin, and his lovable grandfather Gosha (more on him specifically later).

Average/Regular Beasts:

• A Shiba threw a Tiger back with a punch

• A type of fox has a 2,314 PSI bite according to Legoshi

• A dog in his dorm casually picked one of Legoshi's books and threw it away into the distance

• A Carnivore accidentally ripped off another herbivores arm without much effort, with Legoshi saying this is almost a common occurrence and that Carnivore's always have to control their strength lest something like this happen

• Kyu snapped a street pole in half with just rope and said breaking a giraffe’s neck was as easy as snapping pasta

• Random Carnivores smashed up signs and parts of the buildings all around the Black Market

Shishigumi:

• The Shishigumi saved Louis from shooting himself by rushing multiple feet before he could pull the trigger

• In order for the scene to make sense (Louis was holding it to his throat, and we see it fired from the sound and shell being launched) they had to have reached him before he could pull the trigger. 

• Shishigumi kinetic vision (tracking/identifying moving objects) lets them take advantage of attacks in under 0.1 seconds (this isn’t a speed feat only they can do, it’s solely related to how kinetic vision works, and actually attacking wasn’t an issue for them)

Gohin:

• Pretty much ignored a chair being smashed against his body

• Bent Jail bars in the past

• Legoshi regarded him as stronger than Bill

• In Beastars, Pandas are physically comparable to Brown bears with a key difference being in their diet. However, Gohin is naturally powerful, and does not face any physical amplification from meat. The Grizzly Bear, a sub-species of Brown bears, has a paw swipe force of 9.49-34.11 Kilojoules

• The Asian Black Bear, a species physically comparable to pandas, has a paw swipe force of 15.66 Kilojoules

Gosha (See Before the Verdict):

• Chapter 107 Cover has good Gosha render for scaling

• Llifts giant beams over his head

• Crushed a camera

• Punched through the massive concrete wall surrounding the black market in one blow (48.164 Megajoules)

• Battled Yahya while not trying to hurt him or fighting back

Riz

As Legoshi’s first enemy foil, Riz is a brown bear who devoured and killed drama club member Tem. Not only was he a friend of Legoshi’s, but someone Riz destroyed due to misconceptions about how herbivores and carnivores could never be friends. In their final showdown on New Year’s, Legoshi traded blows with him when he was off his strength medication, which causes atrophy in muscles to limit their true strength. While things were initially in Riz’s favor, Legoshi still fought him for a while despite that advantage, but returned after consuming Louis’ leg. That boost in strength allowed him to match Riz far more evenly to the point that Riz conceded that he won, morally and physically. So, by now Legoshi would at least compare. 

Chapter 89

• Page 1: Good Riz render for scaling

On Muscle Medication

• Deeply scratched the ceiling with his claws

• Palmed a marble floor and imprinted on it (he struggled with the side effects prior, but was still on them)

• Snapped a wooden pole in half

Off Muscle Medication

• If bears his size don’t use this medication, they’d rip herbivore hide like tissue paper

• Once off his meds, he grew larger and shattered an egg only meaning to touch it

• Smashed Legoshi into and severely cratered a wall

• Stated he came into his full strength during the fight 

Melon

The final and literal boss of the Black Market; a cross-species hybrid between antelope and jaguar. Hating his parents for having him and the life he lives, Melon desires to burn down everything, to seek true feelings from consuming others, and to bathe the world in blood by forcing beasts to embrace true nature as he views it. This goes against everything Legoshi stands for, so they eventually came to blows in a similar clash to Riz. Their battle varied at numerous points, with them both gaining advantages, but Legoshi ultimately being the given winner before others interfered and Melon shot himself. It is also important to note that more of Melon’s jaguar heritage came out during the fight and prelude, making him far more muscular and making him grow stronger.

• Render (Chapter 125)

• Stabbed through an elephant with a massive syringe

• Stomped on and damaged Yahya’s hand

• His fight with Legoshi was dubbed the most brutal and vicious someone who grew up in the black market had seen all his life

• Grabbed and strangled Legoshi

• Wounded Yayha with his jaws

Yahya

You’ve certainly heard the name “Beastar” and that name is certainly befitting of Yahya; being his title. An old friend of Legoshi’s grandfather Gosha, Yahya is the black devil that protects the world from evil as a virtual super-cop. He has his own issues to unpack, but comparing him and Legoshi despite his stance in the story is actually much easier than you think. Legoshi launched Yahya across a room with one punch (even though Yahya allowed it and called him weak to mock him), but more impressively is when he seriously punched Legoshi for a scheme a bit later and all that came out of it was a bloody nose. Gosha has also matched Yahya at this point, and both of them stated Legoshi inherited the Komodo Dragon’s strength and skill. Lastly, Melon pierced and heavily wounded Yahya with his claws while bleeding out himself, with Legoshi himself being able to replicate something like that in pure force. See Before the Verdict for more information.

• Yahya render for scaling (Chapter 116)

• Kicked a rhino against a wall 

• Bashed Legoshi back to bend several metal bars

• Cracked a metal wall

• Severely dented a stainless steel tank with one kick (293.1 Megajoules)

• Legoshi called him “the toughest beast” he’s ever met

Weaknesses

Edward

Even though Edward is made to be the perfect hunter, he still has his faults here and there. His mind reading in particular is not unbeatable, and numerous things across the story have provided odd challenges to him. Should your consciousness be simply vague enough, he can’t really pick up what you’re feeling, like with Bella’s father Charlie. You can block out his mind reading as Alice has before by not thinking of what you are doing, or simply have thoughts so frantic he can’t pick them up. Edward can’t distinguish truth from lie if the person he’s reading does something like that, such as how his family would be thinking “Bella is Alive!” to stop him from going to the Volturi, and he would not believe them even when it was true because of that truth/lie nature. Also, his mind reading can only pick up what you yourself are thinking at the moment, and doesn’t comb through your memories unless you dredge them up (that’s Aro’s territory). Lastly, the very act is based on reading your thoughts, so simply not thinking of what you are doing makes your actions effectively unreadable under most cases. Someone who didn't think his words before he spoke them only enraged Edward with them after he spoke them, and Life and Death expands upon this to confirm that instinct bypasses his reading (See Before the Verdict). Even aside from his mind reading, Edward can get quite arrogant depending on who he’s fighting, which has led to numerous opponents’ ferociously outmatching and nearly killing him in the movies. Finally, due to Vampires being predators that feast on blood, when it is in the air Edward gets more frantic like a shark.

Legoshi

(Source)

Like any teenage boy trying to work his way through the world, Legoshi is far from the most put-together person out there. His senses are acute to be sure, but he can’t see through things like thick mist very well. More dangerous, it is noted that Legoshi gets overconfident in battle, which results in numerous scars because he doesn’t believe he can be hurt. Whether that is entirely true is questionable given he tries to evade damage like anybody else, but this has been compared to his getting ahead of himself, and having no sense of self-preservation for most of the story despite his mostly figuring it out later. He can also still be sliced by daggers like others, and has gotten seriously injured by bullets damaging his internal organs. 

Before The Verdict

Both

Adaption Inquiries

One brief thing to address is how these two may seem a lot stronger and tougher than their more known adaptions show off; The Twilight Saga in the movies and the Beastars anime compared to the book series and the manga. Both notably adjust or remove various things to make it fit their vision more. For example, Emmet being compared to a cement truck while arm wrestling Bella is wholly absent in Breaking Dawn Part 2, simply because narration and internal thoughts aren’t discussed nearly as much. On Legoshi’s end, Yahya wrecking the steel container is entirely missing from the anime, due to it only showing the aftermath of the scene and not anything where he walked into the factory to begin with. Their strength and speed feats are noticeably lower, such as how numerous Beastars feats of destroying walls are severely lessened while bullets appear instant, or how Edward’s speed is slowed down in parts like his saving Bella from the van or in climactic battles so we can keep track of it. Just to clarify, this did not affect the verdict in any way because these adaptions are not 100% representations of the characters capabilities. Getting visual clarification was very much appreciated, but the original material was the primary source for their stats. If it shows us things relating to their abilities that do not contradict the main source material, then it is fair game. Otherwise, standing onto “but it’s different in the movie/anime” is not a good critique and was similarly not used like that here. 

Edward Cullen

Vampire Durability

One curious facet about Vampires would be their durability, which varies a lot over the series. So, which is it? 

First, let’s cover all the various ways it has been described. According to the Illustrated Guide, Werewolves perceive them as akin to moving crystal. This crystalline nature is consistent, and how they are referred to elsewhere in the book; directly comparing them to a prism multiple times. Edward has compared his body to being hard, cold, and throwing rainbows in the sunlight, which does line up with crystal generally. One other notion is that this could be alluded to as diamonds, due to three descriptions from Breaking Dawn made by Bella. The first is from Bella in Part 3 Chapter 25 Page 486-487, where she says the following: “I probably looked like a cartoon, the way I sprung up, then looked at him - his diamond body faintly glinting in the diffuse light.” This is a pretty obvious comparison to merely the appearance of diamond by glittering in the light, and not discussing its hardness or durability. The second is from Part 3 Chapter 26 Page 523, where she says the following about her daughter holding her mother: “Renesmee stroked the smooth diamond bright facets, then laid her arm next to mine.” Once again, this is merely describing the appearance of Diamond, and not related to its actual toughness. Lastly, in Part 3 Chapter 32 Page 620, Bella says this: “The strength I usually worked to keep restrained flowed through my muscles, and I knew I could crush her into diamond-hard rubble if she pushed me to it.” Now, this could potentially be used, due to Bella being a Vampire at this point and likely being a fair judge, as well as specifically discussing it in terms of durability. To validate or debunk it, let’s look at the rest of the examples.

For those other mentions, it has also been compared to steel a few times. The first is from Bella in Twilight, where she describes Emmet’s arms in the following: “The steel bands of muscle flexed along his massive arms.” This one is pretty obviously hyperbole for several reasons, first being that Bella really didn’t know much about Vampire biology at this point. She had been told general things like their diet, misconceptions about their species, and shown general stat traits like superhuman speed. She had no idea of their exact nature or durability, so she’s mostly just talking, with that assumption of hers being furthered by the flowery language of just describing Emmet as muscular (which is clearly the intent). Now, Edward actually has something similar, where he says every limb of his body was “unyielding as steel” in Midnight Sun. This one has a bit more merit, but ultimately falls in the same line of hyperbole from just describing something as really strong. There isn’t really another viable comparison to steel in durability for Vampires besides maybe them being able to bite through steel, but the context of the statement was describing his immense strength in comparison to Bella and his need for self-control around her. If it had more substance there might be something to it, but the statement’s context leads more credence to hyperbole. Finally, we have the more baser descriptions from people like Jacob.

Jacob has described kicking Vampires like Rosalie as kicking Concrete or Stone, which actually lines up well with various other statements revolving around granite. His original story of his ancestors fighting Vampires specifically describes their skin as “hard as a granite rock.”  In Breaking Dawn, he describes Edward’s skin as granite, clearing keeping in fashion with his other statements of Vampire bodies being more akin to rock. These statements are the most in line with real Vampire capabilites, due to them coming from a more serious character like Jacob whose entire history revolves around knowing how dangerous Vampires are. Finally, let’s look at the most viable descriptions from the Twilight Illustrated Guide and Stephenie Meyer herself in Q&A’s she’s done over the years. In the former, she directly descibes their skin as “harder than granite,” with the latter doubling down on these comparisons. She has likened attacking Vampire bodies in a direct conversation about their biology to “cutting through granite,” and later said staking them would be like “shoving wood through granite.” 

So, what is the logical answer? With all said and done, granite is the most consistent. All the comparisons to diamond are more in line with simply crystalline qualities, which other Vampires like Bree Tanner support. Meyer herself clarifies that their bodies become somewhat like diamonds with prism-like qualities, never really saying they are as hard as diamonds herself. This sort of thing is to explain why they sparkle, and only one statement exists across the series that compares them to diamonds in hardness. If supported, same with the steel assumption from Edward, they could potentially be used seriously, but they more fall in line with just generally describing Vampires as “vaguely strong/tough.” Jacob compares Vampires to Granite or stone numerous times in important events describing their capabilities or how they feel when he attacks, with the official guide describing their capabilities dubbing them harder than granite, while Stephanie herself compares them to granite in various Q&A’s directly discussing their biology/nature. All in all, granite is the most consistent and supported material their bodies can be compared to. 

New Vampires

This one should be pretty easy to get through. Essentially, New Vampires in Twilight are expressly noted to be far stronger than regular Vampires in the latter chapters of the saga. This is due to the large amount of blood still in their system after they turn, which is what they do for sustenance. It has been said Newborns can crush older Vampires with ease, and this is backed up by the entire plot of Eclipse and The Short Second Life of Bree Tanner. In it, Vampires created small armies of Newborn Vampires, using their intense strength to combat the Cullens. If so, why did the Cullens and Werewolves win? Simply put, they were more skilled and experienced, on top of all Vampires having the same durability. As Stephenie herself puts it, Emmet, despite being weaker than an average Newborn, would win a fight because he knows what he’s doing. Skill matters way more against Vampires, and other parts of the story detail that the millennia old Volturi would dominate other Vampires due to their experience as support. Bella is frequently shown to be stronger than all of the other Vampires in the Cullens simply because she is a Newborn, like when she casually beat Emmet in an arm wrestling contest.

Going back to Emmet for a second, Stephenie has stated that he in particular is immensely strong for a Vampire and slightly weaker than the average Newborn. As Bella showcased, an arm wrestling contest of pure strength was pretty solidly in her favor, and again, Emmet is a massive anomaly for an average Vampire in strength like Edward. In short, the story is incredibly blunt about Newborns being far stronger, and since even Emmet is weaker than them, Edward does not scale to their strength in any metric. Closing, it should also be noted that Edward can’t match Emmet in strength either. The entire reason he stalemates Emmet in play fights is that he simply sees his moves coming, and not that he can match his strength. On this same page, Emmet used his full strength and immobilized Edward from moving, which is kind of bluntly showing that Edward can’t reach his power output. So, closing, Edward can’t compare to Emmet’s full strength and certainly not the strength of a Newborn Vampire.

Various Twilight Feats

There are a few Twilight feats with varying ends that we saw fit to discuss in greater detail here, which you can scan in any form you wish.

Edward catching Meteors

This one is a simple claim and something just as simple to discuss. Edward claims that he could catch a meteorite that would fall through Bella’s roof and kill her. Seems cut-and-dry, right? Well, not really. The argument that he could is fine, but the problem lies in the methods to calculate it. I got 27.47 - 66.42 Megajoules, but the purpose of that was to show how much you have to highball it to get impressive numbers. Taking his thought process literally, and assuming the meteor could crush Bella, I assumed it would cover half her body in diameter, which would make the meteor weigh 1.57-3.66 tons. That in of itself is an extreme highball, as most meteors that come into orbit don’t weigh nearly that much, with even a moderately sized meteor being able to kill Bella should it come down on her. An object with kinetic energy falling through her roof and hitting her face or torso would simply kill her even if it weighed much less, and assuming it could weigh literal tons is an absurd reach in logic given how rare these meteors are. Pair that with the speed a meteor would get upon reaching the ground (100-200 m/s), and this calculation was a highball. 

If you assumed it was a more reasonable weight for a meteor, that would range from 0.22 - 22 pounds, and thus lowball the result to barely even 200 kilojoules. Assuming anything decent in mass to up kinetic energy is simply an unfounded highball that would only reasonably be used for similar debatable areas. For reference, there is only one case of a human surviving being struck by a meteorite, where it crashed through her roof (just like Edward feared) but bounced off another object and back onto her where it bruised her. Less than 10,000 meteors hit the ground, making the chances of one actually hitting you, let alone one of any kind of decent sizing, substantially inconsequential. Even if you take the hypothetical as something you believe he believes he can do, as a sort of highball where a meteor at that size could be caught by him, this would only really be a highball due to nothing really supporting the likelihood of this happening. 

Benjamin’s Elemental Abilities

Ah yes, town level Twilight in my stew. Wait what the f-

Actually discussing this, Benjamin is often brought up in Twilight discussions due to his incredible power shown within the Breaking Dawn book and movie, where he created a massive ravine during the final battle. The book dubs it a “deep narrow fissure,” while the movie shows it extend deep enough to reach magma/lava and thus procure a fiery end for the Volturi. Going into Ben’s powers during the Illustrated Guide, he, quote, “physically controls elements with his will similar to telekinesis, and no one else like him exists in the Vampire world.” So, this power is expressly a mental ability that nobody else in the world has. His powers influence the elements themselves physically, but again, this is a telekinetic power that does not tie back to his physical abilities. Looking at the movie, one argument you could make for it scaling to physicals is his causing the earthquake by punching the ground and using his powers. However, every single showing in the movie of him using his abilities prior was always not related to his physicals. Moving water? Simple hand motions. Manipulating dust/dirt? Simple hand motions. Controlling fire? Simple hand motions. Nothing ever implies or shows he does this with literal physical effort, where in fact the Illustrated Guide directly dubs it telekinesis. 

So, Benjamin is the only person in the world with this kind of ability, which does not relate to his physicality in any way, and frankly makes no sense even scaling back to his strength or other physical nature anyway. Again, all Vampires in the series have the same granite durability, so acting like they can hit each other with the force to cause earthquakes is a bit silly. Actually, New Vampires or other Vampires noted to be stronger than Edward like Emmet never showcase that kind of power, making it incredibly inconsistent and illogical to try and argue this scales back with how we know Benjamin’s powers work. Heck, one major plotpoint of Vampires being secret is because humans can kill them with modern day bombs, which Stephenie Meyer also confirms. Them having this kind of power is completely incongruent with pretty much everything in the series, and when pairing this with all of the prior details, Benjamin’s powers are simply incomparable to everybody in the verse. 

Various Speed Feats

There are a multitude of speed feats from Twilight that I felt like discussing more in detail. First, Edward once moved across a room in reportedly “not even the smallest part of a second.” This one is likely hyperbole for numerous reasons. Bella was a Vampire at this point, yes, which does make her a better judge of time due to calculations and the like, but the context of this doesn’t change the former notion. Frankly, it’s about Edward running to her for… adult activities when their daughter was asleep. Bella was obviously shocked in this action due to newly married life, and thus only puts up a half-attempt to judge things realistically (in what “seemed” like no time at all) due to her mindset. There also is simply not a noted case of Vampires moving in single milliseconds like that, with Edward’s own example of really running to Bella in the first book having him count hundredths of a second in a much more serious moment. During Midnight Sun he noted he was a millisecond too slow during the business with the Tracker, where their fight following it was in a mere quarter of a second. Him actually trying his hardest to beat him taking that much longer clearly makes this more hyperbole, which his text mirrors where he effectively said “if I was just a little bit faster, I could have-” on top of the fact that he doesn’t even show much he would theoretically move in a millisecond. Both of these scenes are in serious narrative moments, so assuming he moved far faster to get freaky is a bit of a funny assumption, and not supported at all. Even still, Bella’s statement doesn’t define the gap between second and millisecond (IE: Not 1 millisecond, 10 milliseconds, 100 milliseconds, etc). So, this is too ill-defined and hyperbolic to take seriously. 

Next, Edward’s run to the van to save Bella in the first book. I had thought it would be supersonic with Edward’s description in Midnight Sun, but this isn't the case. The original book notes Edward reached Bella before she could blink, which gives a timeframe of about 0.15 seconds. The latter clarifies that Edward believed no human eye could have followed his flight, with none of the people there being aware of it. However, he also clarifies that he was counting hundredths of a second between grabbing Bella and crashing to the ground with her in his arms. The actual speed to become fully invisible would require much faster movements in 1/100th of a second, so Edward simply had to have been moving slower than that or his statement over how much time it took him means nothing. Taken literally and assuming he moved a meter while grabbing Bella and going to the ground, that would give him a speed of 300 m/s and just under Mach 1. Anything higher isn’t really supported with more consistent descriptions. 

Next, a few Newborn Vampires run to a city and disappear within the blink of an eye. Originally I believed they ran to the city, which was a mile away, but nothing really implies that. Jasper (human at the time) said their dresses blurred as they looked like they were flying, and when he blinked, they were gone. That is simply just another consistent feat of Vampires running fast enough to blur and generally turn invisible, and nothing indicates they made it to the city in a literal blink of an eye. So, what else is there? Well, the Vampires are compared to Bullets in speed by Bella such as Alice when she was a Vampire, which does seem to have some credence given many other supersonic feats in the verse. The most usable without much assumption or benefit of the doubt would be when Bella stated any of the Vampires in their party could have leaped 50 yards in just a fraction of a second, which gets about Mach 1.33. So, it’s possible this could be used among the other speed feats. Edward is also noted to be the fastest Vampire of the Cullens in running speed, so he would upscale this in some fashion and probably surpass Mach 2. 

Destroying Houses

Lastly, there’s the topic of destroying houses when Vampires really let their strength lose in “some situations.” The feat notion is fine, it's just that Edward doesn’t benefit from it because of context. Reviewing Emmet’s original statement, it goes like this: “So it’s still standing? I would have thought you two had knocked it to rubble by now. What were you doing last night? Discussing the National Debt?” Now, this shows he believed they would have knocked their cottage Esme made for them to rubble, yes, but “by now” and “last night.” The only timeframe we have for this in his implication is that it would take several hours, which basically screws (heh) the feat out of any impressive numbers. Just for arguments sake, let’s assume a timeframe of 12 hours (Renesmee’s likely bedtime to 8:00 in the morning, despite likely context making it even longer. 0.53 Tons of TNT or 2,234,444,779 Joules divided by 12 hours equals a jaw-dropping… 51.723 Kilojoules per second. 

Even assuming this hypothetical event took as little as 8, 6, or 3 hours, it would go to 77.5, 103.4, and 206.9 Kilojoules per second. Heck, even a period as short as a single hour would bump it to 620 Kilojoules, which is even worse when you consider that this event would be a group effort from Edward’s average strength and the massive strength of Bella, being a newborn Vampire. Other notions along this light don’t help either. Emmet and Rosalie have knocked down numerous houses when having sex, but not only is Emmet far stronger than Edward; we also have no semblance of a timeframe beyond “a night” based on Emmet’s perceived timeframe for such an event. Even Newborn Vampires, who are noted to have destroyed houses while fighting each other, have no timeframe at all, no indication how many were in on it, or other key factors. Worse still, Newborns being far stronger than other Vampires means there is no logical way to scale Edward to such an event. 

Conclusion

Meteor Catching: Mostly hyperbolic in terms of potential calculations. Anything that would get even remotely impressive is an absurd highball due to the size of a meteor needed to crush Bella’s entire body. A smaller meteor would kill her and achieve the same fear of crashing through her roof that Edward feared, so this result is a clear highball for benefit of the doubt that Edward lacks proof he can do. 

Benjamin’s Powers: These are unique to Benjamin and not related to his physicality. Nobody ever replicates anything on this scale and it’s clear his punch to the ground was simply how he chose to deliver the effect rather than literally punching it and causing it with raw strength. Every example of him using his powers is more like how an Avatar would do so, and the Illustrated Guide directly compares it to telekinesis. The entire reason Benjamin is such a trump card is that there is nobody like him in the entire world, and there is no reason nor possible argument for Edward or anybody else to replicate his feats. 

Miscellaneous Speed Feats: This mostly just clears up some Vampire speed feats, how high they go, and which ones don’t work. With everything jotted down, the fastest feat without assumptions tied behind it like Rosalie’s run at Mach 1.56 is Vampires moving 50 yards in a fraction of a second, which would get Mach 1.33. Bella also compared Alice to a bullet, and Edward being the fastest runner would mean he’s likely comparable to them and over Mach 2. 

Breaking Houses: Doesn’t work for numerous reasons. No timeframe beyond “a night” means dividing this up doesn’t even break 1 Megajoule, even if you are so generous you assume this would take an hour (directly going against Emmet’s joke). His own examples of doing this with Rosalie have no timeframe, as do Newborns wrecking houses while fighting, and both characters are far stronger than Edward (the latter particularly). To top it off, the previous two examples are the actions of two people, making Edward’s potential yield from scaling even less. 

Twilight Processing Speed™  Feats

Oh boy, here we go. One topic that came up while researching this, and in the lead-up with some jokes, led to my going over the potential argument for Alex Mercer-ing Twilight to relativistic speeds. So, is this legitimate? Let’s look over everything that could even remotely indicate it. This requires a fairly lengthy explanation, so let's work down the list to get exactly what all this memory processing mumbo-jumbo means. 

Aro's Memory Read

So essentially, one of the biggest arguments for Edward would be in tune with Aro reading your mind and memories in short periods of time. To put it bluntly, these arguments are simply not viable, at least not in the way that you think. Aro has been claimed to be able to “read every thought you’ve ever had,” which people take to mean he literally reads your entire history when he touches you. That is both true and false, putting it simply. Aro’s powers do allow him to read every thought you’ve ever had, yes, but that’s simply what it is; mind reading without limits elsewhere in the series from someone like Edward. It is just describing Aro's powers, where he can pick and choose which parts of your mind to read. So, the main issue is he doesn't actually read your entire life in moments. To clarify, Edward states he can read every thought your mind has ever had, not that he actually reads EVERY thought in your life, especially on immortals several times older than mere humans. His powers are simply used to read information to get the full picture, like taking a few seconds to scan the needed details from an allies mind, and he doesn't need beyond the basics to actually get his answer. Carlisle has said that Aro simply touching him would allow him to realize his intentions, again simply searching for what he needs. Aro seeing into Edward’s mind would let him look at Edward’s own mind reading, for another perspective, but the most official descriptions come from the Illustrated Guide and Meyer herself. 

These details show that he can “read every thought a person has ever had” and this is described as mind reading multiple times. This is directly compared to how Edward reads minds in Q&A’s, with the difference being that Edward passively hears such of what people are currently thinking, while Aro can look back to scan memories without people dredging them up after he touches them. For reference, Bella believed Aro had “seen into all the corners of Alice's mind” to gauge her capabilities, so this is simply mind reading on whatever Aro needs to know. For instance, let's look at his interactions with Bella and Edward. In their first meeting, he just used it to see what Bella meant to him, and how they could be together due to his curiosity. This would only require up to their meeting, which was less than a year ago in story. We can support him only doing a little at a time due to whenever his powers are used, they never scan more than is necessary. To back this up, let’s talk about Edward’s daughter Renesmee. Her powers allow her to show her people her thoughts through physical contact, in a sort of reverse of both Edward and Aro’s abilities. This is important because she shows numerous people the story behind her birth, and every single example “took a long time” or “a few minutes" individually. In context, Bella has been a Vampire for a few months at this point, and the story before that (from Edward meeting Bella to their marriage) was about a year and a half. So, this would add up to about 2 years total for this sort of theoretical showing. Remember that for later. 

Now, why does this matter to Aro? Well, Renesmee’s powers interacting with thought and memory are internally compared to his and Edward’s by Bella pretty bluntly. So, we have a comparison of the same sort of thing explicitly taking several minutes to process, where the parties are only taking in the information. Now, let’s compare this to Aro reading Edward’s mind to see the story of Renesmee’s birth. 

During this, in Bella’s words, he saw “every secret thought, every strategy, every insight, everything Edeard had heard in the minds around him during the last month. …And further back, every vision of Alice's, every quiet moment with our family, every picture in Reneesme's head, every kiss, every touch between Edward and me…all of that was Aro's now too.” So, this goes back to the start of the series (roughly 2 years ago), ignoring his being informed on the story in New Moon for the benefit of the doubt. During this, “his eyes snapped shut at once, and then his shoulders hunched back under the onslaught of information,” with Edward reading this all with him as this was happening, and such going on for long enough that all the Volturi’s soldiers became uneasy. So, this is pretty much an exact replication of what Renesmee does, and this explicitly paralyzed both Edward and Aro from, quote, “the onslaught of information.”

To put it bluntly, this blatantly contradicts virtually every proposed argument for Aro literally being able to scan centuries worth of information in seconds. His abilities are selective mind reading where he can scan each thought you have had, but plainly not that he can literally do so all at once, and he has never read the entire life span of any character in the series. His showings using the ability are just searching for what he needs to know, and no equivalent example exists in reading minds to compare him to. Whatever the case beforehand, his mental read with Edward is a massive contradiction, where just reading two years worth of information literally made him unable to move from the sheer amount of memories to comb through. Arguing he can thus somehow remain perfectly fine when perceiving centuries when he has literally never done this is frankly ridiculous, and even more so when we discuss other characters in the series. 

Alice’s Future Sight

Next up is Alice, and she is pretty notable due to the repeated visions of the future she has. She has seen events decades in advance, and repeatedly combs through several of her future visions as plot points. So, what exactly is the issue? Well, she never really processes enough information to get good numbers. To start, Stephenie Meye has stated that Alice’s visions are mostly photographs and still images, with the only “animated” ones being things she’s more sure of. This is also a passive thing related to the decisions others make, where Alice sees the more likely futures based on likely occurrence. To that end, she doesn’t process literally everything leading up to it, just general details. For example, her first clear vision was of meeting Jasper 48 years into the future, of specifically that event and not processing the time before that. In Twilight, she vaguely saw Bella ending up in the same room as James, but not how or why that was the case, hence the Cullens struggle to keep her from him. She saw various visions of Edward and Bella together as Vampires, but not anything before that. So, while her visions are precise for more likely outcomes, she doesn’t see anything beyond those outcomes, of which there are clearly a limited amount. How many are there? We don’t really know. 

Mrs. Meyer has said there are “14 million” in the opening of the Twilight Illustrated Guide during a conversation about her writing, but this is clearly blatant hyperbole for the sake of a point. She was talking about how actions influence others, and how their own actions influence other people, in a shaking web of connecting actions that Alice can perceive based on probability. Nothing in the core series ever implies or shows she can process that many at once, where even Life and Death caps a potential number at hundreds of ways a day can go. So, the simple issue with all of this is her visions only really gauge the outcome, but also only if they are really likely, as otherwise they are just still photographs. There is no clear number of how many there are beyond vaguely hundreds through Life and Death, and she can’t really be processing that much memory all things considered given more general notes about Vampires and Edward himself. 

General Notes/Conclusion

Lastly for this category, let’s cover how Vampires work in general. They have photographic memories, with such being the ability to precisely recollect and comb through memories at will. More importantly, their brains are able to simply think of many more things at one time, unlike humans or werewolves like Jacob despite the latter’s ability to keep up with Vampires. That in of itself just destroys any memory processing arguments, because the entire idea of converting processing things to reactions is looking at how much they process in X amount of time. With Vampires, it is impossible to quantify how much they actually process that can be applied due to their being able to think of numerous things at the same time. Even despite that, there simply isn’t a viable example of any Vampire ever processing a good amount of information. At one point, Edward appeared to process Alice’s entire life per her trying to give Edward a show of who she was, given that she already loved him like a sibling would due to her seeing him. However, this isn’t really what’s happening. Edward says, quote, “she thought swiftly through her life from her first memory to that very moment, and then forward in time through the highlights of our next few years together.” This is simply just her recounting parts of her life to him to give him a general idea of who she is, with the latter part confirming she was showing him the highlights. This happened pretty quickly in context, and given the text of “she thought swiftly” compared with the highlight quote, it’s clear Alice simply showed Edward an essential plot description of her life. That prospect is furthered once you look at all of this together. 

So, let’s recap. Edward, Alice, Aro, and Renesmee all deal with thoughts, memories, and potential perception calculations. Alice never views enough to get any decent arguments, nor does Edward’s viewing parts of her life include the entirety of it. This becomes overwhelmingly clear when Edward and Aro’s minds met, in which both of them were basically stun-locked for multiple minutes under, again, “the onslaught of information.” Renesmee also leads credence to this, taking several minutes to show memories of her life to others in drawn out periods, with the clear narrative being that Vampires can not process centuries or even decades of information in short time periods. The absolute maximum in the example with Edward and Aro would be about two years (potentially more in interest with Edward’s visions and Alice’s statements furthering it to some degree assuming you take Bella’s statements literally) and this paralyzed even their brains for several minutes; making them physically unable to process and react to it except as a statue. 

Furthering this, again, Vampires process information faster than humans, and can literally think of numerous things at the same time. Then, even this period as short as 2 years was too much for them to react to despite all their abilities, to the point that arguing anything different simply does not line up with what the series presents. Edward being argued to process Alice’s entire life in an instant, which is clearly not what is going on anyway, would be blatantly contradicted to this pretty major plot point in the final battle of the series. Alice processing decades of information (not what is going on either) would contradict it the very same. Aro’s own arguments of processing centuries are clearly contradicted by how his powers actually work and their shown limitations in this final battle. For the last nail in the coffin, we need to talk about how literally none of these examples are even applicable to reactions anyway. 

Looking back at all of these examples, every single time is when the Vampires are stationary and not reacting to the information beyond simply viewing them. Every other example of them actually moving or perceiving information is in portions of a second down to hundredths, with the smallest example of thought given is milliseconds with Edward saying he was just one too slow (which itself is probably hyperbole and not about physical movement anyway. This then brings up the problem with using memory perception to begin with in VS period unless the writer actually intends it. Calculations for this collect the amount of time a person would process (For example: 86,400 seconds times 30 times 12, or the seconds in a day multiplied to make a year) and divide it by the time they do this, and then assume they can move a select amount of time in this timeframe. The issue with Vampires is they NEVER move in such a short timeframe to prove they can actually react that fast, and this extends to the entire idea of things to begin with. Processing memories is a mental action that you don’t move your body to, making the very idea of saying someone can move in that timeframe to gain reactions contradicting the very idea of perception. Perception is defined as “the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the senses:” It is not related to physical speed at all. 

Perceiving memories in VS (majority of the time in examples I’ve dealt with, there are certainly other more valid examples) is a mental experience that involves looking over information in a short time. That is something not related to physical speed at all, because these examples are blatantly not dealing with physically reacting to the information, and only experiencing it. Many proposed arguments for this ignore the entire idea of “thinking back/over information while completely stationary” to argue that you can gauge reactions by assuming they can move a certain metric of measurement in that timeframe, when the entire point of these examples is that the characters are not reacting that fast. Even aside from my personal problems using these sorts of things, as well as their being absurd outliers 90% of the time, none of that matters to the argument. Aro is a blatant contradiction where only a few years were too much for him to process at once, and all examples of Vampires perceiving memories or information is not scalable to their reactions or physical movement speed as repeatedly proved in context. So, no, relativistic Twilight is not real nor viable. 

What about Life and Death?

This book is a story of the concept of Twilight but where everybody is gender-swapped. Unironically the book is pretty good, but the real meat and potatoes here are whether it applies to Edward in any way. They have some interesting details about Vampires and Edward’s abilities through Edythe, which do support notions from the original novels. It is stated Vampires never get sick or feel tired and that they have perfect recall of memory. Edythe’s powers can be bypassed by instinctual movements would bypass it (Life and Death Chapter 19 Page 306) as well as technique and skill against her mind reading (precognition also works). The former notions were things we already knew about Vampires to certain extent, while the latter were certainly implied and shown through Jasper’s using skill and instinct to fight Edward in Eclipse. So, why exactly aren’t we using it? Essentially, part of this reimagining is making the cast far more impressive than the original book in multiple areas.

Take Edythe herself. In Twilight, Edward ran with Bella on his back to cover about 5 miles in a few minutes. In Life and Death, Edythe covered the same distance with Beau in mere seconds, clocking in at Mach 5 and faster than everything Edward scales to when he runs seriously. She also threw a boulder half her size across a forest without much effort. Assuming she threw it back to the start of the trail (makes sense, as her mind reading would allow her to see people only up to a few miles away), that would likely earn over a hundred megajoules, which is higher than even Emmet’s strength that immobilizes Edward in the original series. Speaking of, his counterpart Eleanor is estimated able to lift a mountain over her head by Edythe, which Beau similarly believes later on. I shouldn’t even have to explain how unsupported that is in the original series, and even in this very book as well. Edythe mentions she can lift 5,000 lbs (2.5 tons) when she needs to in a direct conversation, which then leads to her off-handedly saying Eleanor could maybe lift a mountain, with the smallest mountains weighing literally millions to billions of times greater. The sheer disparity between 2.5 tons and a literal mountain is completely asinine for a strength comparison, in the same vein of our old pal Billy Bullshitter comparing Supes to Bullets and Tachyons. Even still, Eleanor is explicitly mentioned as far stronger than Edythe in this very conversation. 

Moving to Archie, he is generally the same as Alice is. He sees various future visions and processes them, but never such an absurd amount to boost his reaction speed so much given the established details and flaws of these sorts of things. He apparently saw more than 100 ways a day could have gone, but with no timeframe on that either, and his viewing Jessamine/Jasper’s counterpart being similar to the original book. Notably, he says “the first second you became part of Edythe's life, for me it was like we'd already spent hundreds of hours together” to Beau, which could get decent numbers for potential perception calculations if taken literally. The issue is that he says “it was like” when simply describing how he views the world due to seeing the future. His visions allow him to experience time differently by seeing it ahead of everybody else, with the actual visions in question being pictures mostly based on Alice. She doesn’t really see time as just processing several hours at once like so, making this just a vague example of Archie’s powers. Even if one takes it as fully literal, again, Vampires can think of several things at once, with a clear narrative cap on how hard they can process things that makes it unable to scale to their combat speed. 

So, we will not be really looking at these feats for Edward due to how this reimagining clearly ups the ante on how powerful Vampires are. 

Legoshi

Shonen Upgrades

Originally this was going to be two BTV’s, but I decided to squeeze them into one. Now, Legoshi obviously gets a lot stronger over the course of the story, so what does that mean for his overall stats? First, there’s the matter of Yahya; the valiant Beastar and Black Devil. Make no mistake, he’s one metal son of a gun (he literally uses the bones of his fallen enemies as fertilizer for his carrots), so it may seem odd to try and compare Legoshi to him. Based on their actual examples, Legoshi was kicked and stomped on by him under the threat of Yahya killing him (which was the narrative pushed in the scene), with the anime having this bend metal bars and launch him several feet. He intended to make Legoshi beg, until Legoshi ripped out his own teeth to “earn” the right to punch Yahya, where he launched the horse several feet onto a table. Yahya noted he saw the punch coming and allowed it to happen, where he insulted Legoshi by claiming it was as weak as his personality. Whether he was mocking him to mask actually feeling it is unknown, but this probably leads credence to Legoshi not scaling if it were everything. Later on, when he needed Legoshi’s blood, he just full on punched him in a cocky repayment of when Legoshi punched him his hardest during their first meeting. Nothing really suggests he was taking it lightly given his own comparison to Legoshi’s punch (“You punched me the first time we met. Now we’re even.”), and the entire point of the attack was to draw blood. Legoshi emerged fine except for a bloody nose, which is a pretty good sign he can take blows from Yahya well on its own.

Moving on, there’s also the matter of Gosha, Legoshi’s grandfather (and one of the best grandpas in fiction). For context, Gosha was and is narratively a clear match for Yahya, being his best friend and original ally in both their dreams to become Beastars. They frequently called each other equals and worked together as a single unit, obviously being comparable to each other. Even in the present day, Yahya attacked Gosha when they reunited, fully expecting him to be much weaker. Gosha actively didn’t really fight back, but still shrugged off a punch to his face while catching another without much of an issue. Even now the two are clearly similar, to the point that Gosha still compares even without fighting back and going on the defensive. This is important because the entire reason Legoshi is so strong and skilled naturally is because he is Gosha’s grandson. Gosha is a pretty abnormal Komodo Dragon already, but his hybrid Grandson pairs that strength with Wolf DNA to become who he is.

Legoshi has been directly stated to inherit Gosha’s huge stature, skill, and even his strength from Gosha; the latter being directly dubbed as inheriting “my strength” by Gosha, while Legoshi said he had “Grandpa’s strength.” This isn’t just hyperbole either, as Legoshi assisted Gosha against bird thugs and attacked at the same speed as him, on top of the fact that both the former allies are noted past their prime. Legoshi is at the same age they were when they were allies, and probably trained a lot harder than them, so him comparing based off that alone is certainly fair to use. Now, the final piece is Melon’s inclusion. The final villain Legoshi has to fight, the two comparing to each other is pretty much a given when looking at how hard they fought. Even after Melon started growing much stronger when his jaguar side started manifesting more, Legoshi still beat him when all was said and done. This is important because Melon stomped on and damaged Yahya’s wrist in the anime, while also biting through his shoulder when he was bleeding out from being shot twice plus all the damage Legoshi gave him. 

Now, piercing damage may not seem like the best argument, but Beastars as a series frequently goes into this. Legoshi himself had an abnormally strong bite when he started (nearly double other wolves), but his training resulted in his putting that strength into his limbs. It was a pretty big plot point and result of Legoshi’s training that he was able to do that, effectively replacing his fangs as his main weapons. Legoshi has openly held back the jaws of Jaguars before, and his limbs have become strong enough to tough out even the toughest bite-force from animals like Hyenas or Riz. Wolves and Jaguars in general are also similar in bite-force, albeit the former being a bit weaker, and again, Legoshi explicitly matched Melon as he got stronger. So, Legoshi has taken blows from Yahya before, is narratively the recipient of strength that matches Yahya’s, and his main enemy heavily wounded Yahya via a method that Legoshi implemented into his physical strength/durability. So, it should be fine to compare Legoshi to Yahya, and even in the context of the story it makes sense given how much stronger he got over the time it takes place.

First, in the beginning of the story, Legoshi blatantly refers to himself as “not athletic.” This does make sense, since he doesn’t really exercise or train in combat or anything. Even so, he still pushed himself to take on the Shishigumi with Gohin, where after the fact he started training with him to get stronger. This was furthered by Riz sneak attacking him and nearly killing him, where Legoshi wanted to be strong enough to catch the killer. So, during the point of this training in Chapter 68, Legoshi converted the strength of his jaws into his limbs for enhanced physical power, which enabled him to slam a Hyena into a wall with 103.975 Megajoules of force (note that the calculation was adjusted in the comments, hence the two links). Later still, he crushed a spotlight with 19.123 Megajoules of force just because he got mad and without two much effort beyond just reflex due to anger. Now, in Chapter 72 (after the 100 Megajoule feat, before the Spotlight crush), Legoshi confronted Riz, and he believed his chances of winning were “close to zero” at that point, which is why he trained even harder with Gohin to make up that strength difference. 

Keep in mind, this was against Riz with his muscle medication on, drastically limiting his full strength. Later on after training more, Legoshi generally matched base Riz in their bathhouse brawl, but like all anime protagonists he just had to go for the ol’ “fight me with your full strength.” So, they fought on New Year’s Eve when Riz was off his medication, “coming into his full strength” according to Volume recaps. Bear in mind, this growth was so tremendous that merely trying to grab an egg shattered it, meaning his previous attempts to naturally restrain his strength were entirely ineffective. In his full power, Legoshi was losing the fight, yes, but he still got ragdolled numerous times and still had energy to fight. After consuming Louis’ leg, he matched Riz about evenly and made him stop fighting. So, that by itself makes Legoshi vastly upscale all his previous feats. He believed he had no chance when he could already slam people around with over 100 Megajoules in one attack, but then progressed to match base Riz, and then progressed to match his true strength which was far greater than even that. Yahya’s own feat is around 300 Megajoules from a simple and casual kick, so Legoshi comparing based on how much he trained is no reach in the slightest. 

Even after Riz, Legoshi still got stronger, like in his final battle with Melon. The prelude had Legoshi express doubt in his ability to match his strength, but he did so anyway even while fasting for weeks while Melon did not, let alone the 2 gangs he took on during the same night. Actually, he tanked numerous blasts from the Madaragumi’s tail bombs, with just the first explosion equaling 271.488 Megajoules, and just about a match for Yahya’s kick. He got up from this still able to fight just as well despite injury, and then took 3 more blasts of this same bomb from other Komodo Dragons, which would be 814.464 Megajoules. Even after that, he still got up able to fight the next gang following, and then Melon even after that for an extended amount of time while he was getting stronger no less. The sheer amount of progress Legoshi makes across the series, on top of all the comparisons and facts about Gosha or otherwise, mean Legoshi scaling to Yahya is certainly viable, while also meaning he has grown far stronger than virtually every feat listed for him (reminder: he tanked several 270 Megajoule bombs, than went on to push himself still further with that damage in mind).

Now, this also involves speed. Legoshi is shot at a few times in the story, appearing to dodge a few of them. Are they usable? It’s complicated. The first occasion had him duck a pistol shot from the Shishigumi, which has been calced at Mach 3 before. The issue is it can be interpreted as aim-dodging given the lack of visible movement before it was fired, with the anime changing that interaction entirely. That’s actually another problem, because the anime notably lessens the scale Legoshi is shown to be on, making things like bullets appear instant and have him clearly unable to dodge a bullet during the party based on a slow-motion replay of it. He had a similar instance in Melon’s office that could be looked at as aim-dodging, and has ran away from gunfire by the police, but none of these examples really give a solid answer of whether he is aim-dodging or moving after they are fired, and the anime hasn’t animated the latter two yet (it’ll nerf them anyway lol). So, I mostly didn’t account for them, especially considering Legoshi’s far more blatant feat during the final fight. 

Remember those tail bombs the Madaragumi used on Legoshi? They were their tails ripped off with a bomb strapped to them, and Legoshi didn’t want these parts of their bodies to be destroyed in the blast, so he saved the tails from the bombs. Context makes this very impressive, since the tails were strapped to the bombs in the first place (meaning he’d have to separate them to protect them from the bombs, or they would have been destroyed) and he did this for several tails at once when three bombs were used on him. He said he stashed them in his underpants to shield them from the blast, and things escalated from there. The Komodo Dragons fully expected their tails to be destroyed in the blast, meaning Legoshi shielding them is inherently necessary for them to survive. He’d have to separate them from the bombs to do so, which he says he did by hiding them in his pants. Note that the bombs going off is blatantly instant, as the very first one handed to him had a timer of 0:00 when he held it and exploded right after, while the next group was a near-instant explosion. The Madaragumi were also surprised he did that, meaning all of his actions to them were inherently faster than they could see or just that he did it while the explosion shielded him anyway. Still, the only way this scene makes sense with context and the facts given is that Legoshi did all this while the explosion was going off, making his speed about Mach 1.22. Given Legoshi has so many examples of aim-dodging/potentially dodging gunfire anyway, plus examples of perception blitzing other animals with enhanced eyesight, him reaching supersonic speeds isn’t that much of a problem.

So, Legoshi scales to Yahya, vastly upscales his other strength feats by story's end, and his own explosion feat reaches supersonic speeds. 

Verdict

Here is a particularly powerful script I wrote for this match. Please give it a read, since I placed so much of their characters into this emotional fight, in more ways than one. 

Speed

Starting off, let’s get the more established categories out first, like speed. Both Edward and Legoshi are a lot faster than you’d think, with plenty of speedy stuff to go over. They have blatantly blitzed the reactions and perceptions of other characters, like Edward doing so to Bella or Legoshi to Shishigumi thugs. Granted, animals in Beastars should reasonably have better eyesight/perception than humans if they are like their real-life counterparts, but Edward has more instances of this and in better quantities, so it roughly evens out. They’ve kept up with foes just as fast as them, so the main course here is who simply has higher numbers. For Legoshi, he has evaded bullets a few times, but the manga and anime makes these instances either not dodges or aim-dodges, so they aren’t really the most solid case for arguing speed. Still, Legoshi does have a pretty good feat where he outspeeds the explosions of multiple bombs to protect the tails they were attached to, which gets about Mach 1.22. 

Moving over to Edward, he’s far more used to speed than Legoshi is. He can run fast enough to blitz humans and blur or even appear invisible to them, traversing several states in days or even hours (by his own merit or from the other Cullens). His own run against the van to save Bella clocks in at around Mach 1, but that isn’t his limit. Rosalie ran 100 miles in a short time to likely earn Mach 1.56, and any of the Vampires the Cullens allied with in Breaking Dawn could leap 50 yards in a fraction of a second to earn Mach 1.33. These don’t seem all that different from Legoshi’s own reactions and combat speed, but remember, Edward is the fastest of the Cullens and generally faster than other Vampires to begin with. This doesn’t exactly make him faster in combat speed mind you, but he would certainly upscale both of these values to become generally faster than Legoshi. Furthering that, he actually runs that fast, which Legoshi obviously can’t do, and his own mind reading (more on that later) would allow him to see Legoshi’s moves ahead of time and get a good jump on him. With his upscaling people of similar or slightly higher speed, plus clearly superior movement speed and mind reading, Edward Cullen takes speed. 

Skill

Speed is a pretty good edge, but it being as close as it is leaves plenty of room for things to change based on other factors, such as skill. Now, you might expect Edward to cleanly sweep here given his sheer experience edge, but quantity doesn’t always equal quality. While Edward has been a Vampire for 60 years longer than Legoshi’s even been alive, he’s not exactly used that experience as well as needed to call him a master martial artist or anything. He was raised by a pacifist Vampire who openly instructed him not to kill humans or other creatures and to only fit in with humans, which he has done for most of his life. Edward broke off for a few years to kill humans for their blood, but picking on ants before they can stop you without fighting others at your level isn’t much of a boon to brag about. Now, obviously Edward has fought his fair share of battles and is by no means a novice, but he just simply hasn’t done much fighting despite being alive for 87 years solely because of his upbringing and lifestyle. He kills animals and other weaker creatures due to strength and instinct, on top of picked up skill, but none of that can really match what Legoshi gets up to.

Sure, his adventures covered a few years and that’s obviously much less, but consider the skills he picked up during that timeframe. Legoshi’s entire journey in conquering his carnivore instincts relied on absolutely grueling training where he picked up a virtual encyclopedia of knowledge on numerous species (cats like lions and jaguars, birds, rabbits) including how to deal with fast runners like Jaguar by punching their shins. He’s taken on several opponents and taken them down in seconds, including criminals much older than him without any training himself such as the Shishigumi boss or his other thugs. Actually, the enemies Legoshi fights are quite similar to Vampires as Apex Predators with similar strengths (great physical speed and strength, teeth, tough skin, etc), and he’s dealt with all their tricks, plus more, all in a rapid timeframe. Heck, most of his knowledge and training was specifically about how to counter and take down these varied foes, so he’d certainly be able to adapt to and fight someone like Edward. He defeated a champion boxer in seconds while taking no damage before even training with Gohin, and has been trained in combat by both said Panda and his student Kyu; a 17-time UFC championship that Legoshi later outskilled himself. Taking on and adapting to enemies with these sorts of edges over him is pretty standard fare, in part due to his inherited skill from his master fighter Grandpa. 

One thing to compare here is also Jasper, who Stephanie Meyer hypes up as a fighting machine. Jasper trained for a short while in the army in the mid-19th century before being turned into a Vampire, where he spent about 80 years as a fighter in Maria’s coven albeit unspecified what he did beyond general fights. His own skill and instinct enables him to keep up with Edward despite his mind reading, with implications that he’d end up winning the fight. So, relatively simple training and experience of fighting goes a long way (not to discount Jasper, he’s still quite skilled), but Legoshi’s own training put him on a far harder crash course against a much wider variety of foes including objectively trained/master martial artists, and he outskilled them himself. Edward has only fought other Vampires and Werewolves in his world (granted some have their own hax), with the latter being people even less experienced and trained than Legoshi that simply keep up with him or other Vampires due to sheer aggression and ferocity. Legoshi certainly compares given his duels with Shishigumi and Melon, and when you pair that with his superior training/skill showings, it should be pretty clear that Legoshi takes skill. 

Abilities

So, with Edward being a bit faster and Legoshi more skilled to the point of potentially being able to counter him as Jasper has, let’s check their abilities for anything that could mitigate or improve their other advantages. 

Both of them generally have similar powers and tricks up their sleeves. They are super predators with super-senses, incredibly sharp claws and teeth, on top of other boons. General range is about the same in their senses, where Legoshi could distinctly smell Pina from 1.3 miles away, and Edward could hear Bella’s heartbeat from miles away. Still, Edward’s other senses like sight extend farther and can see on a microscopic level, along with generally comparable or superior examples to Legoshi’s other senses. His teeth can bite through steel and are claimed to be as strong as steel, where Legoshi lacks a similar example. Edward’s own skin is noticeably tough, which could prove hard to break given his body is composed of a granite-like substance. Both are pretty agile, but Edward’s leaping through trees is just a bit better than Legoshi’s examples, and both of their senses should reasonably counter the other’s stealth (though neither really fight that much like that anyway so it’s mostly a moot point). Where things really change are Edward’s other powers. 

His mind reading is quite notable given how it functions, which allows him to read the minds of others and see their attacks coming ahead of time. That includes your emotional state and intentions, and obviously knowing attacks ahead of time lets him act accordingly to dodge. Ensuring he retains his speed advantage and knowing how to dodge Legoshi’s moves are quite notable, as are Edward’s immortality and Venom. Edward’s body is virtually impossible to tire out to the point that he can exert himself for entire weekends, and his biology lets him shrug off wounds like losing limbs or the like. Granted he doesn’t exactly “heal,” but his own stamina and tenacity would require something like decapitation or destroying his body to put him down (like through breaking it and burning him). His Venom, should he choose to administer it, is a poison that puts a victim through agonizing pain to essentially freeze them in place, eventually turning them into a Vampire, but mostly just being a potential weapon to kill you. These are a bit more hax-y than Legoshi’s own offensive options due to his being mostly a brawler, and thus Edward takes the advantage in abilities. 

Counters

While Edward has some pretty good versatility, Legoshi’s real strength lies in his defenses and sheer resilience, which is why we mostly discussed Edward prior. How exactly can Legoshi deal with Edward’s tricks, and how can Edward deal with his? Let’s talk counters. 

Now, going over Legoshi’s other powers, his own stamina and pain tolerance is pretty ridiculous. He fought numerous foes for likely the entire night during his battle with Melon, ensuring he’s not running out of stamina any time soon despite Edward’s being better. He’s fought despite numerous lacerations and teeth wounds from other species, ensuring Edward’s teeth and claws aren’t quite as notable as you’d think. Actually, Legoshi’s own hide has been repeatedly shown to be so tough that other Beasts can’t really chew through it, even for Riz or a Hyena. IRL Hyenas can chew through weakened steel as a comparison to Edward’s teeth piercing an unknown amount/density of steel, with the one Legoshi fought having far stronger jaw strength than the average, yet he explicitly noted he couldn’t really bite through Legoshi’s skin. Riz openly couldn’t bite through his stomach to reach his vitals, so Edward winning through piercing him and attacking his vitals or things of that nature aren’t really likely. Even if he could, his teeth would still get stuck like they did with the Hyena, allowing Legoshi to take advantage of him trying it anyway.

Legoshi simply being a Carnivore enables him to size up his opponents and their general traits like bite-force simply by looking at them, giving him a pretty good read on Edward’s capabilities and what to watch out for in a physical sense. Still, things like this wouldn’t matter much if Edward just went straight for Venom, right? Well, this isn’t a realistic counter to Legoshi for numerous reasons. Even just as a potential option, to be blunt… Edward has literally never used this ability in combat in the entire series, nor has any of the other Cullens or even other Vampires really from what we see. It goes against his entire character and philosophy of dooming others to his immortal life, and even against people like Werewolves where it poisons their healing, he never used it. The only instance of his even using Venom in the first place is to turn Bella into a Vampire when she was dying and save her life, but, again, he’s never used it anywhere else. The likelihood he would turn to this when it goes against everything he stands for, when he doesn’t even use it on the animals he hunts, let alone other Vampires and Werewolves, is an essential non-factor given how he fights. Still, even if he lost himself to the point that he would use it, the Venom wouldn’t really work on Legoshi to begin with due to his Komodo Dragon ancestry through Gosha. 

For context, Gosha being Legoshi’s grandfather meant the wolf inherited his grandpa’s immunity to Komodo Dragon Poison and “poisons” in general, with this Venom being quite similar to Vampire Venom in various ways. Both are lethal weapons that can freeze their victims at will, deadly when they hit internal areas like blood or mucous, generated in the mouth based on emotion and reflex, and the tools of apex predators. It isn’t used much on others of their species but can still injure them in high enough dosages, so narratively and contextually they are very similar. Actually, real-life Komodo Dragon poison causes subjects to go into shock and induces pain on the level of burning alive, which is certainly comparable to Vampire Venom’s descriptions. Again, Legoshi is wholly immune to it, so bypassing his resistances isn’t very liable to happen. Even resisting poison in the first place is a counter, given it only applies these effects after working on the victim, which can’t really happen if they resist poison. Even aside from that, pairing the poison with Legoshi’s ludicrous pain tolerance assuredly ensures he can shrug off its effects, like when he ripped out his own teeth without giving much of a damn. Pair that with how out of character Edward even using it in the first place is, and the Venom is pretty much a non-factor. Even worse, other Venom fighters trying it on Legoshi resulted in his healing wounds due to latent Reptile regeneration, so do with that what you will. 

Of course, the real thing tripping Legoshi up is Edward’s telepathy. Being able to read Legoshi’s moves ahead of time makes hitting Edward a large chore, and allows Edward far more time to strategize around Legoshi’s other advantages. At the same time though, Legoshi’s other powers earn him even more advantages that Edward can’t answer much easier. He has limited experience with Illusions, meaning Legoshi could likely get the jump on him with Moth Dispersal. Legoshi’s rage and feral state has much more control than Vampires do while tapping into the same ferocity that has troubled them in the past, and his Imaginary Chimera provides a strength boost for combating Edward still. Even so, the Moth trick is mostly a one-time deal, and doesn’t fix things by its own merit. However, Legoshi’s true advantage here is his mere nature as a wolf. 

His body and mind are often governed by instinct, such as when his body instinctively reacted to his anger and shot a Shishigumi thug's ear off before his mind could catch up with his actions, or when he instinctively adjusted his attacks against Kyu. Granted these aren’t surefire 100% of the time traits, but Legoshi’s attacks are surely composed of both skill and instinct. This matters because both of these traits are direct counters to Edward’s mind reading (more blatantly in Life and Death but still present in the original saga), due to instinct being a pure reaction that you don’t think to do, and thus something Edward can’t read. Take his sparring match Jasper for example. He relied on instinct as much as he could, but Edward still saw his moves slightly faster anyway, but Jasper countered by drawing on unfamiliar moves plus his greater skill. Things ended as a draw, with this being a direct example of skill and instinct being able to get around Edward’s mind reading, proven by the implications that Jasper would win if neither were holding back. Looking at Legoshi, his body reacts by instinct the same, providing a natural answer to Edward reading his thoughts. Sure, like Jasper, his slight speed advantage would likely allow him to counter regardless, but Legoshi’s clearly better martial skill and qualitative experience would provide the other necessary tools to counter him as he adapts over the course of the fight. There’s still the issue of actually killing Edward and bypassing his insane durability, plus how Legoshi could take him down in the first place. As we progress to our last category, Legoshi has the better counters. 

Power

Lastly and most importantly, there’s power. With both having various advantages, the main question is if Edward can take Legoshi down before he counters his powers and outskills him, or if Legoshi can tough out Edward’s attacks until he can take him down. 

Both of their capabilities easily extend from superhuman to the absurd. Their species are capable of easily killing and ripping lesser species asunder (Vampires casually killing humans vs Carnivores casually killing herbivores) to the point that an average carnivore can rip off a herbivore limb by complete accident if they aren’t careful in Beastars. Various members of their species(s) can launch people large distances, launch objects like books or baseballs over the horizon, smash up parts of metal or buildings like walls, etc. Going into their feats, Edward’s most famous is stopping the Van from crushing Bella, which hits about 249.85 Kilojoules, and he has similarly implied he could save Bella from speeding cars by stopping them (or just pulling her out of the way, either works) which could get 489.5 Kilojoules - 1.472 Megajoules. However, and perhaps surprisingly, Legoshi is far stronger than that just on his own merit. Before stronger training to battle and defeat Riz, Legoshi could crush spotlights in his hands with 19 Megajoules and slam Hyenas into walls with 103.975 Megajoules, gaining numbers 76 to 400 times stronger than Edward’s feats. Even his 1.5 Megajoule end is nearly 12 times weaker than the spotlight crush, and over 60 times weaker than Legoshi smashing that wall. 

This sort of thing continues no matter how high you have Edward. Vampires like him can throw minivans across footballs fields with 491.52 Kilojoules - 12.29 Megajoules, with the high-end being still 8 times weaker than a single attack from Legoshi. Even Emmet, a guy with strength near a newborn Vampire that explicitly outstrips Edward’s, used only about 13.9 - 31.73 Megajoules vs Bella, and this is comparing a single attack from Legoshi to the maximum strength of a character far stronger than Edward. The Cold One can’t compare to any feats from Newborns, with things like destroying houses being reliant on timeframe and thus unusable, and there really isn’t anything to put him even close to Legoshi’s raw power or durability. He once implied he could catch meteors that would crush Bella, which could get 27.47 - 66.42 Megajoules, but this method of calculating was an extreme highball that assumed a meteor literal tons in weight could fall through her roof when smaller asteroids would do the same and still kill her. Even taking it literally, Legoshi’s strikes are still three times stronger, and again, this was Legoshi before he underwent severe training to amplify his strength to combat and beat even base Riz, let alone facing his true power when off his strength medication. 

People Legoshi can compare to have done similar things, like Gosha punching through the Black Market barrier at over 48.164 Megajoules or Yahya destroying a steel container in one kick with 293.1 Megajoules, which match and outstrip both Emmet and Edward’s highball meteor catch. In fact, Yahya’s yield is over 10 times stronger than the meteor, and 4.4 times more than its high-end and Edward’s greatest possible power argument. It should also be stressed that it is an unreasonable high-ball, and without it Edward is explicitly weaker than Emmet and his Megajoule numbers that are at least ten times weaker than the kind of energy Legoshi can dish out in casual strikes. Even worse for Edward is Legoshi’s bomb explosion feat with 271.488 Megajoules (similar to Yahya’s number even if you don’t buy them scaling), and several times higher than anything Edward can scale to no matter how lenient you are with him. Even after, he got up mostly fine and took 3 more bombs of the same kind at the same time, which is about 814.464 Megajoules taken literally and 12 times higher than the meteor high-end, 26 times stronger than the maximum of Emmet’s max strength, and over 100 times stronger than everything else Edward has. 

Even after all this, these sorts of things are single strikes Legoshi takes and endures several times, with the damage from four of those bombs just being a prelude to the rest of the night of the Black Market battle with Melon. There is no way Edward can reliably put Legoshi down, but this is exactly the opposite when looking at Legoshi’s ability to kill Edward. Remember, Edward’s own immortality is related to his ability to put himself back together after enough time, but it doesn’t give him a Wolverine style healing factor on the fly. Numerous Vampires have gotten limbs or their head torn off and are not able to do a thing about it because, well, duh, and Edward himself has nearly gotten killed by decapitation before. While he can come back after a long enough time, the fight would be long since over due to his inability to continue. Given his far higher strength, Legoshi could certainly punch Edward’s head off in one attack or simply crush his entire body with the sheer power he wields, and Edward would not be capable of coming back any time soon. Even in the context of his regeneration, if Legoshi sees the pieces trying to reattach themselves, he could just scatter them anyway, or just resort to burning them. While he doesn’t know this method being the only thing to permanently kill a Vampire, the entire reason it was found out in the first place was from ancient tribes several hundred years ago completely devoid of technology just thinking to burn the remains of a Vampire when they saw them regenerating after a long enough time. Given Legoshi’s own intelligence and knowledge of species capabilities, there's no reason he wouldn't eventually try it if things really went to that point. 

This sort of thing being the conclusion is quite logical, especially when you look at Vampires natural enemies in Twilight; Werewolves. We’ve mentioned them before, but these ferocious animals are essentially just giant wolves, with their sheer strength and ferocity being able to slaughter most Vampires pretty easily. They’ve even taken on New Vampires and the Cullens, usually getting in close to slash and destroy them with their teeth and claws, showing that high enough force can allow claws to destroy Vampire bodies. Given Legoshi’s vastly superior strength and claws that have repeatedly slashed foes at or above his strength level, there's really nothing stopping him from cutting up or punching Edward’s body to rubble in only a few punches. 

Against such an advantage, Edward really doesn’t have anything to beat down Legoshi or protect himself. Slicing or biting him won’t work due to how tough his skin is or his own insane stamina and pain tolerance, and Edward’s own power is simply incapable of overtaxing Legoshi’s durability. On the flipside, Edward’s own strength and durability is completely outclassed, and Legoshi’s sheer ferocity paired with his claws, rage state, Chimera, etc, makes him able to take out Edward in just a few attacks. Sure, Edward’s mind reading will make it hard to land these, but Legoshi’s instincts and higher skill ensure he could reliably counter it. Even Edward’s faster running speed doesn’t allow him many edges, given how he doesn’t really run circles around opponents in his world but rather face them head-on. Against a foe so mighty that none of his tricks will work, he has no real option to save himself before Legoshi gets the hit he needs. Raw power goes to Legoshi.

Conclusion

Edward

Advantages: 

• Generally faster and has superior running speed

• Mostly better abilities like senses and sharp teeth

• Mind Reading enables him to see Legoshi’s thoughts and predict his moves

• Stamina and Immortality make killing him harder than most…

• Venom could be dangerous if used…

• More experienced

• Has one of the best dads ever

Equal:

• Similar senses that counter each other’s stealth (though neither would really try it)

Disadvantages:

• Far weaker and less durable

• Legoshi’s Instinct and greater skill counter his mind reading

• Inferior stat boosts

• …but Legoshi’s raw strength bypasses it and he could certainly think to burn him

• …but it is absurdly out of character, something he’s never used in combat, and Legoshi would likely resist it anyway. 

• Teeth and claws can’t solidly cut through Legoshi nor reach his vital organs

• Still a better love story than Twilight 

• Kristen Stewart’s acting

Legoshi

Advantages:

• Far stronger and tougher

• Superior training and skill, with analysis clueing him in on Edward’s bite and other strengths

• Instincts and skill counters Edward’s mind reading 

• Resists Edward’s Venom due to Komodo Dragon heritage and Pain Tolerance, which would allow him several hours of time to fight Edward

• Can bypass Edward’s immortality by destroying his body with his strength

• Moth Dispersal is hard for Edward to counter

• Has one of the best grandpas ever

• A better love story than Twilight   

Equal:

• Similar senses that counter each other’s stealth (though neither would really try it)

Disadvantages:

• Mostly slower and not nearly as fast in running speed

• Telepathy is tricky to work around

• Less experienced

• Inferior inherent powers generally speaking

• Somewhat inferior stamina in the long run

• Everybody misspells his name (it is literally said Lego-shi. HOW ON EARTH DO YOU GET LEGOSI FROM THAT?!)

When all is said and done, Edward just doesn’t have enough in his corner to keep up with Legoshi. The gray wolf is dozens to hundreds of times stronger than all of his power arguments, and thus can stonewall all of Edward’s attacks while destroying his body in only a few strikes. Edward is generally faster, especially in pure movement speed, but not to such a drastic degree that Legoshi can’t still keep up (upscaling Mach 1.33 and 1.56 vs Mach 1.22 isn’t that much of a difference). Granted, Edward can maintain his speed edge by reading Legoshi’s mind, but that doesn’t and hasn’t done much against clear strength gaps before in serious situations. Edward has been overwhelmed by aggressive opponents before, which Legoshi certainly compares to, and his mind reading can be beaten through instinct and skill. Legoshi’s body notably reacts with that kind of hunter instinct, and his own training gifts far more martial skill than Edward. While the Cold One is certainly more experienced, not much of that was doing much besides picking on small fry, and even still Legoshi fights a far wider pool of opponents. In fact, he’s faced off against foes with incredible stats, sharp teeth and claws, or even countered faster runners Jaguars by attacking their legs. His Imaginary Chimera and Rage State provide boosts in power and ferocity to further his other advantages, while his Moth Dispersal allows a free hit in the illusion. Legoshi’s muscles and bones tough out against the jaws of others, meaning Edward can’t bite him to death, and his trying to would ensure his teeth get stuck. Legoshi’s own pain tolerance and stamina would certainly lend him the time to outmatch Edward due to his sheer lack of options in taking the young Beastar down, with even his Venom being something entirely out of character and ineffective anyway due to Legoshi’s poison resistance. It may come as a shock to see such a foe beyond humanity fall, but when you really look at things, Legoshi is anything but human. On this beastly Twilight, heard near and far, a cold one was left in the wake of the valiant Beastar. 

The winner… is Legoshi. 

Final Tally

Edward Cullen (0) - 

Legoshi (1) - Round 1 Fight

Why I like it

So, bit of an… odd option, to be frank, for me to like this much. Why is that the case? Well, this match is ironically basically perfect on both ends of the spectrum in all ways that count. Here are some connections to show you why:

• Both Edward and Legoshi are conflicted young members of a predator species (Vampire and Wolf) who inexplicably fell in love with their “prey” in a teenage high school romance (Bella Swan and Haru). This very action horrified them until they were able to accept their feelings, with various similarities occurring in the nature of the relationship. This includes the worry that their “feelings” are just masking the desire to eat their lover, leaving them for periods of time due to wanting them to have a safer life or be with a more normal love, and of course struggling with their instincts pushing them to eat them. This has also made traditional intimacy in things like kisses or… other stuff rather hard for them, humorously enough (Both nearly suffered injuries at kisses or further levels throughout the series).

• Both Bella and Haru also have various similarities in their characters. They were often reserved but sassy individuals that initially believed they weren’t special until they met their future boyfriend, but in a role reversal of finding their first love (Bella had simply never fallen in love before and never dated anybody, believing it simply wasn’t the right time until Edward showed up. Haru engaged in numerous relationships with others purely to try and experience an environment where she was equal to others, but never really fell in love until she met Legoshi). Both their lovers and the story also call them “accident-prone” where nonsensical things happen to them that put them in danger due to their nature (various Vampires chasing Bella and various Carnivores chasing Haru). They also had brief relationships of differing levels with another like them (Bella with Jacob and Haru with Louis), with these two men being semi-rivals but eventual friends to the protagonist after getting over their envy of each other. 

• They both grew up more reserved and quiet individuals due to grappling with their own sins and judging themselves too cynically. Others often thought poorly of them due to their intimidating nature or strength, or envied that strength in turn.

• They and the series as a whole deal with the concept of life in general, all its intricacies and beauty, and what it means to take a life (Pretty much their entire story focuses on them fighting their instincts to take and devour other people, like their girlfriends, with several others in their world doing the same like Carlisle or Bill. Legoshi enacts severe changes to his society, resulting in the destruction of the black market and this sort of change on a national scale). 

• They were raised by a pacifistic predator like them after (or before in Legoshi’s case) their mother died, with this fatherly figure being a childhood hero to them (Carlisle and Gosha). Both had experienced the dark side of the world and their own instincts, but chose to ignore the urge to fight or kill and instead be a pacifist who doesn’t seek combat (The Cullens hunting only animals/not killing humans or seeking fights with other covens and Gosha teaching Legoshi not to flaunt his strength; instead seeking other ways to resolve conflicts).

• Both have inner demons inside them that act as temptation to give in to their killer instincts (Midnight Sun details Edward has a dark version of himself inside saying such, while Legoshi had a similar person of eyes and teeth trying to make him eat Haru when they met).

• Their desire for love is similar in that both never really “found the right girl,” despite various women of their own species falling for them (Vampire Tanya and wolf Juno), due to their idealistic sense of a family. Both wanted to be a father and a husband, usually showing this desire in their wish to marry their girlfriend; much to their surprise and occasional annoyance. This relationship also consistently dives into the word “forever” and how they want to be happy with each other forever (Twilight repeatedly uses this in conjunction with Vampires being immortal as a symbol of Edward and Bella’s love; with them wanting to be together forever and never apart. Legoshi says he wants to never leave Haru’s side and be with her forever several times across the story, as does Haru, culminating in Beast Complex where they say it again). Much of their relationship is trying to find common ground where they are equals, albeit in different ways (Bella wanted to become a Vampire to live with Edward forever and did. Haru wanted Legoshi to chase her forever, to which he simply replied he wanted to be with her forever and so they did).

• Their series also have several similarities:

• Both are heavily associated with the moon in imagery and symbolism (Twilight’s entry names are all from phases of the moon and day/night, while Beastars’ constantly has Legoshi posing with the moon on Chapter covers). 

• Both series entertained the idea of an alternate universe gender swap in which the main prospect of the story ended much sooner (Midnight Sun swaps the roles of Edward and Bella into Edythe and Beau, which results in Beau getting turned into a Vampire and living with the Cullens due to them being too late with the Tracker business. Beastars Chapter 160 portrays a brief look at Legoshi and Haru turned into Legopi the female rabbit and Harunori the gray wolf, where they progress much further in their relationship “at chapter 1”).

So, there’s obviously a lot, and what makes things better is how intricately is dives into their characters. Both are lovesick predator species in love with their biological prey, with their entire story being to conquer these instincts. They were raised as pacifists by father figures they idolize, were often isolated due to their strength and nature, while envying and loving their prey as a species. They go through similar personality arcs (leaving their love to protect them, worrying if this love is just hunger, or even struggling to do things like kiss their girlfriends due to predatory instincts), have similar inner demons pushing them to lose control, and their series similarly deals with the value of life in complex topics. As they grew and gained control, they faced several foes to be with the one they loved, eventually finally resting with them to be together forever. They really are the exact same kind of shy introverted high school boy that found the girl of his dreams for connections, and that doubles for their personalities. Both could easily lose control in the fight and involve their loves, which could lead to the other fighter regaining control to stop them from making that mistake of killing the girl they love. 

Even as a dynamic, this fight is perfect. Both share similar predator arsenals (senses, stats, stamina, etc) that could lead to a brutal fight with excellent hand-to-hand choreagrophy. Legoshi would be more based on martial skill, while Edward would fight like an animal, with both having to go to the other’s turf as things go on. Banter, it would be more psychological, with potentially a few funny lines here and there about Edward not sharing any of the traditional Vampire weaknesses, or Legoshi not being the kind of wolf Edward knows. Both of their more esoteric powers (telepathy and moth dispersal or Imaginary Chimera) could be used well and bounce off each other as they delve into all the depths of their power. Even though Edward would never do it, I’d like there to be a scene where he bites Legoshi and tries to use his Venom, leading to Legoshi resisting it through his grandfather’s blood. Resisting the last stand of a man turned monster due to his own grandfather who taught him how to control himself is a beautiful thing narratively, and oddly, it is a great comparison just looking at how they work. Edward turning Bella is shown as stone flooding her bloodstream to her heart, which is exactly how energy courses through Legoshi when his instincts overwhelm him.

I really like the kinds of fights that can get brutal while still keeping track of the characters, which is why my script took the direction it did. The very way these two would interact would invite in so much of their character that the fight would be sad as a given, since both would hate to kill each other upon seeing themselves in the other. Animation and music potential are also pretty great, with 3D or sprite potential in several areas, and a good chance to mix suspenseful music from both sides with rock or inspirations from various Beastars themes or even Edward’s taste in music. So, that should be about it, and this was fun project to be sure for Twilight’s 20th anniversary while Legoshi’s final season comes out sometime next year. I hope you liked the first blog of my Wave 3, but as for what’s next? Let’s see…

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